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COURT OF APPEAL (CIVIL DIVISION)
ON APPEAL FROM THE MIDDLESBROUGH COUNTY COURT
(His Honour Judge Taylor)
Strand London WC2 Monday, 20th May 2002 |
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B e f o r e :
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SIR MARTIN NOURSE
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G (Children) |
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Smith Bernal Reporting Limited
190 Fleet Street London EC4A 2AG
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(Official Shorthand Writers to the Court)
appeared on behalf of the Applicant First Respondent Father.
Mr G Swiffen (instructed by North Yorkshire County Council)
appeared on behalf of the Respondent Local Authority.
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"... because of their almost unique experience and expertise in caring for children, are people who are going to bend over backwards to ensure that the family link is not lost."
"It is an artificial situation that would present itself because of the contact that mother and G have with one another.
Because of the contact G is going to have with her siblings, and as they grow up and discuss seeing their mum, N and C in particular are of an age to know their mum and there is a bond, in particular between C and her mum, which is close and meaningful.
I think, at this stage, it is impossible to say that contact is necessarily going to be a bad thing. I think that the Is were open enough to concede that it could be a good thing for some, albeit limited, contact between the mother and the twins because of the situation concerning her parents and G.
What I propose to say about mother's contact at this stage, and it is difficult to make a final ruling until I know precisely the form of final order that I will make -- the timescale involved -- but on the assumption that the children remain with the Is, there needs to be a period of calm and settling down, for some months.
I cannot envisage contact taking place much before the end of this year and thereafter contact that the mother may enjoy will be of an infrequent nature. It would not exceed twice a year and it may only be once a year. But I think, and it needs careful considerable in conjunction with the Is in particular, because -- particularly if there is an adoptive placement -- they have got to live with it, and they have got to make it operate, and much will depend upon the co-operation of mother.
But I hope that it may be possible. I think it is in the interests of the four younger children, particularly because of G being in the equation, that there be some very limited contact with mum. As I say, not more than twice a year, possibly once a year, and I cannot envisage much contact before the end of this year. That is what I say about mother's position."
"So far as father is concerned, I regret to say, from his point of view, that I cannot see the same benefit accruing. He is not going to be seeing G. The children are going to be confused by his involvement in the equation and I am afraid that I have come to the view that it is not in the interests of the children to continue contact. I therefore give the local authority permission, under section 34, to terminate."
"I am satisfied that they are worthy people. I am satisfied that they are people who would have something to offer these young children. I think that they are people who would not disrupt the placement -- not only do I think it, I am absolutely certain of it.
I think that, as the children grow up knowing about their extended family, occasional contact -- indirect, and possibly direct, would be in the long-term interests of those children. I am certain that the way that this can be achieved is by sensible consideration given by Mr and Mrs I to exchange of communications, cards -- perhaps some presents, the odd telephone call, to see how relations build up over a period of time. But I hope that that can be achieved."