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CRIMINAL DIVISION
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MR JUSTICE TUCKER
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MR JUSTICE CURTIS
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Nicholas Roy IVEY |
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"Any person who without lawful authority or reasonable excuse, the proof whereof shall lie on him, has with him in any public place any offensive weapon shall be guilty of an offence ..."
"... any article made or adapted for use for causing injury to the person, or intended by the person having it with him for such use by him or by some other person."
"It appears to me, Miss Sparks, that the defendant, on the papers, does not have a defence at all. A butterfly knife is an offensive weapon, per se. Therefore, the Crown do not need to prove that he had it to use either as a weapon of attack or a weapon of defence. The burden of proof shifts to the defendant to satisfy the jury, if this was contested, that he had a reasonable excuse.
The law seems clear that if one has something in one's possession and the reasonable excuse is that you forgot it was there, that that does not amount to a reasonable excuse. So, why do we need a jury, when he is guilty on his own account."
"The simple point for consideration would be: was it a reasonable excuse for Mr Ivey to have it with him? It being in transit, from one place to another."
"If that was the basis of defence I would tell the jury that there was no defence."
"Section 2(1) [of the Criminal Appeal Act 1968] in its old and new forms respectively entitled and entitle the Court of Appeal to quash as unsafe a conviction based on a plea of guilty where the plea was mistaken or without intention to admit the truth of the offence charged. In the case of the old form, it was commonly said, in reliance on a passage from the judgment of Woolf LJ in Preston (1992) 95 Cr App R 355, 381, drawing on an observation of Robert Goff LJ in Hunt (1986) 82 Cr App R 244, 249, [1986] QB 125, 132, that it might also do so where it was 'founded upon' a material irregularity or, as Mr Cassel submitted, upon an erroneous ruling on a point of law."
"In appeals against conviction following a plea of guilty, the somewhat mechanical test of whether a change of plea to guilty was 'founded upon' a particular feature of the trial, namely a wrong direction of law or material irregularity, gives way to the more direct question whether, given the circumstances prompting the change of plea to guilty, the conviction is unsafe. However, even when put that way, the good sense of preferring the narrower interpretation, which we have identified, of the expression 'founded upon' lingers on. Thus, a conviction would be unsafe where the effect of an incorrect ruling of law on admitted facts was to leave an accused with no legal escape from a verdict of guilty on those facts. But a conviction would not normally be unsafe where an accused is influenced to change his plea to guilty because he recognises that, as a result of a ruling to admit strong evidence against him, his case on the facts is hopeless. A change of plea to guilty in such circumstance would normally be regarded as an acknowledgment of the truth of the facts constituting the offence charged.
We qualify the above propositions with the word 'normally', because there remains the basic rule that the Court should quash as unsafe a conviction where the plea was mistaken or without intention to admit the truth of the offence charged."
"... by their pleas of guilty, [the appellants] intended to admit and have admitted their guilt."
"We think that the basic principle underlying those cases is that once one has or possesses something, be it an offensive weapon or a drug, one continues to have or possess it until one does something to rid oneself of having or possessing it; that merely to have forgotten that one has possession of it is not sufficient to exclude continuing to have or possess it. As Phillimore LJ said in Buswell [1972] 1 All ER 75, 78 [1972] 1 WLR 64, 67, there is no limbo into which the article can go if recollection dims.
Accordingly, in our judgment there was no misdirection by the learned judge in the instant case about the appellant's knowledge that he had the cosh with him. There was need to leave to the jury the question whether he had forgotten that he had it with him. He knew that he had it, because he had picked it up at the building site and continued to have it with him in his car; and by the statutory provisions he had it with him in a public place.
As to the second alleged misdirection, we are quite satisfied that to have forgotten that one has an offensive weapon in the car that one is driving is not in itself a reasonable excuse under the Act. But when such forgetfulness is coupled with particular circumstances relating to the original acquisition of the article the combination of the original acquisition and the subsequent forgetfulness of possessing it may, given sufficient facts, be a reasonable excuse for having the offensive weapon with one."
"For instance, to take an example that was adverted to in the course of argument: if someone driving along a road where earlier there had been a demonstration were to see and pick up a police truncheon which had obviously been dropped there and were to put it in the boot of his car, intending to take it to the nearest police station, and then were to be stopped within a few minutes, he would have a reasonable excuse for having the truncheon with him in the boot of the car. If he were to forget that it was there and two years later were to be stopped and the truncheon were then found in the boot of the car, the circumstances of the original acquisition of the truncheon and the time for which that person had completely forgotten that it was in the car could constitute a reasonable excuse for possessing the truncheon two years after its acquisition."
"Depending upon the circumstances of the particular case, forgetfulness may be relevant to whether or not a defendant has a reasonable excuse or possession of an offensive weapon."
"The circumstances of the present case, including the fact that it was not the defendant who had introduced the weapons into his car, the fact that the weapons had been in his possession for a comparatively short period of time and the fact that he had given evidence as to how busy he was on the relevant night, which bear on the question of his forgetfulness, all as it seems to us, made the relevance of forgetfulness to the question of whether his excuse for possession was reasonable a matter for the jury."