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CRIMINAL DIVISION
The Strand London WC2A 2LL |
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B e f o r e :
MR JUSTICE COLLINS
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MR JUSTICE JACK
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LEVAUN FORRESTER |
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Wednesday 30 August 2006
LORD JUSTICE RICHARDS: I will ask Mr Justice Jack to give the judgment of the court.
MR JUSTICE JACK:
".... in this particular instance it would seem unnecessary to have a plea to count 3 as well as everything else. Your Honour may wish to consider the weaponry in count 2, the Tokarev. That is a prohibited weapon within section 5 to which the minimum of five years' imprisonment is applicable. It is not, strictly speaking, a minimum term under section 17 to which the defendant has pleaded guilty. The firearm itself is a prohibited weapon under section 5."
In our view, where a count under section 5 attracting sentence has been properly included on an indictment and there is no defence to it, a plea should be taken. That is because Parliament has identified section 5 for a minimum sentence under section 51A. It was not appropriate for counsel to invite the court to order that the count lie on the file and at the same time invite the court in some way to adopt the minimum sentence nonetheless.
MR STRADLING: My Lord, yes. May I ask for a representation order?
LORD JUSTICE RICHARDS: Yes, we will grant a representation order for counsel.