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You are here: BAILII >> Databases >> England and Wales Court of Appeal (Criminal Division) Decisions >> Brack & Anor, R. v [2007] EWCA Crim 1205 (24 April 2007) URL: http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWCA/Crim/2007/1205.html Cite as: [2007] EWCA Crim 1205 |
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CRIMINAL DIVISION
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MR JUSTICE BENNETT
MR JUSTICE GROSS
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JOSEPH WILLIAM BRACK JOSEPH JAMES BRACK |
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"He is not able to remember details, etc. We are going to have to establish, amongst other things, how he purchased two properties together worth some £½m."
The judge said "Yes". Counsel then said:
"We say it is simple enough if you go to the first assumption you see that it is property transferred to him many years ago. The Crown, of course, say you ignore that because it was still held by him after the conviction. I say that is not a logical approach to take."
To which the judge said: "I agree with you." This refers to two houses, one in which the father was then living, which were said to be worth £475,000. One was purchased in November 1995 and the other (the father says) about 20 years ago. On the face of it that was not property acquired after the relevant date but was property held by the father after his conviction - see section 10(3)(a) - and so on the face of it fell to be considered as a benefit from general criminal conduct.
"Yes, but both men were in employment as market traders. I do not wish to cast slur over something but one does know from one's experience of life and on the Bar [we think he meant at the Bar] and the Bench that market traders have a somewhat free and easy view so far as VAT, Inland Revenue and so forth is concerned, as father Brack concedes. The assets that these two men have accumulated over the years in my view is probably attributable to their earnings as legitimate market traders."
To which counsel for the prosecution replied:
"I can see that that finding would probably rebut the presumption so far as they are concerned. But, of course, the Crown bring this application in part on the basis that although, as your Honour knows, there was no conviction in relation to these offences, there were two large caches of counterfeit goods from different sources found on the premises."
Counsel went on to point out that as well as the houses to which we have referred, father had substantial sums in bank accounts. The investigation had revealed that £180,000 had been paid into his bank accounts at various times of which £120,000 remained at the time of this hearing. The judge did not respond to that but simply adjourned the hearing and when later that morning he was told that no settlement of the case had been possible he simply dismissed the application without further argument. In the course of the discussion about what the judge's order would be, Mr Watson did say:
"In other words, your Honour is saying that you think it unjust to apply the assumptions in this case."
To which the judge said:
"No, I think I will dismiss the application."
There were further exchanges which suggest that the judge was simply saying "no" to whether his ruling was that he was declining to deal with the application or whether he was dismissing it. But when invited to indicate whether the application had been dismissed on the basis that it was unjust, the judge did not say in terms that this is what his decision had been.