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You are here: BAILII >> Databases >> England and Wales Court of Appeal (Criminal Division) Decisions >> R. v M & T [2009] EWCA Crim 2848 (01 December 2009) URL: http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWCA/Crim/2009/2848.html Cite as: [2009] EWCA Crim 2848 |
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CRIMINAL DIVISION
Strand London, WC2A 2LL |
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MR JUSTICE IRWIN
MR JUSTICE EDWARD-STUART
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PROSECUTION APPLICATION FOR LEAVE TO APPEAL AGAINST A TERMINATING RULING UNDER S 58 CRIMINAL JUSTICE ACT 2003 |
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Mr G Cole, Mr R Wigglesworth QC & Mr M Rhind & Mr S Csoka appeared on behalf of the Respondents
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"These young men may have been proved to have witnessed what occurred so far as the shooting is concerned, but I cannot now regard it as safe for a jury to concluded that they can be taken by their continued association with Bell, to have been involved with him in a joint enterprise to pursue the deceased, still less on the evidence available, to be fixed with certain knowledge of the presence of a firearm before the shooting took place."
He continued:
"They cannot be safely fixed with the necessary prior knowledge of the presence of a gun, nor can it safely be said that they joined in with any pursuit, in common with the principle of the deceased as opposed to simply making themselves scarce, in the realisation that something extraordinary and unlawful had occurred."
He then turned to the evidence of Danielle Higginson.
"... I could hear Dylan saying to Michael oh he's been locked up, he's been locked up [by that we interpose it appears she meant McIntosh] ... was dead fidgety and looking behind him all the time so we were half way thorough the Batman film and I said I'm going out for a cig and Dylan said I'll come with you and then, so, I was like what's wrong with you when I was outside, he's like oh something bad's happened, and I was like why what's happened he goes erm I was, I went Bradford and then I seen a boy that had done something to my Dad or other relations I'm not very sure about that, but it was something relations with and then he had a gun, then erm he told me that he's seen him, seen the guy - cos this guy, the one that got shot has, had done something to Dylan's dad or relation and err obviously he wanted to go and do something back to him and then - so him and his friend, I don't know his friend's name, and then him and his friend have gone after him and then they've been outside somewhere and because Dylan didn't have the guts to shoot him, his friend took the gun off him and shot him and then - well obviously they probably got off then and then erm he said, this is what I remembered from last night when the police officers had finished he told me that he needed, he'd burnt some clothes and that they were talking about loads of CCTV that was in the area. And then he said that erm Dylan's friend that shot this guy, his brother got locked up for mistaken identity or something and then I didn't believe him and then that's when we went back in the cinema and that's all I know." She was then during a lengthy conversation asked further questions about that long passage. She was asked that McIntosh had said to her: "Well that one of his friends has shot something, and well I don't you've got it written down. She said again, he went down to Bradford some guy, they see some, with his friend, some guy that done something to his dad, or his relation was there, so they he gone after, and then he had a gun and then didn't have the guts to shoot him so his friend took the gun off him and then he was going on then he got off and going on he had to burn some cloths and there was CCTV I heard something about footprints."
She was asked later: "Who had the gun?" She said: "It was him who had it", referring to Danielle. She said:
"That's all I know -- "[The other person] had done something to one of his family relations... He's, this guy that the one that's been shot and died, that erm I think he, I, err, I think it is his dad or step dad and he's, he'd battered him and left him in hospital."
Later, she recorded being told:
"And his friend said well, 'go get him now' ... and erm they went chasing him and then Dylan didn't have the guts, sorry I'll just put it down ... Yeah, so his friend done it."
Immediately after that passage, she said.
"Right cross the bit that Dylan had the gun cos one of them had the gun, his friend said to Dylan go on pull the trigger, so Dylan said no I don't like basically cos he's too scared to, so his friend done it, so it was either one of em cos I don't really want to like say that it was him when I'm really not... That one of e, one of em had the gun and then his, his friend said pull the trigger, pull the trigger. He didn't have the guts, I don't know what he said to his friend but he probably didn't have the guts so his friend's done it."
Then she repeated the evidence that he had said he was going to burn his clothes including some trainers and she thought he was obviously scared. He thought that he was going to be locked up. Later she said so far as she knew the shooting happened outside and his friend had pulled the trigger.