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You are here: BAILII >> Databases >> England and Wales Court of Appeal (Criminal Division) Decisions >> Sundas, R. v [2011] EWCA Crim 985 (05 April 2011) URL: http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWCA/Crim/2011/985.html Cite as: [2011] EWCA Crim 985 |
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CRIMINAL DIVISION
Strand London, WC2A 2LL |
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B e f o r e :
MR JUSTICE RODERICK EVANS
RECORDER OF CARDIFF - HIS HONOUR JUDGE NICHOLAS COOKE QC
(Sitting as a Judge of the CACD)
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i. "Any person who without lawful authority or reasonable excuse, the proof whereof shall lie on him, has with him in any public place any offensive weapon shall be guilty of an offence ..."
i. "The crucial question is what her intention at the time she lifted up that bat to cause injury to Ms McArdle if the need arose."
i. "Now before considering whether she had the intent alleged you will ask whether she had a reasonable excuse for her taking the bat into her hand. Remember, the question is not whether she had a reasonable excuse for carrying it in her car for the previous two months. So the vital time you are concerned with is when she actually reaches into the car and takes the bat from the car. So you may think forgetfulness that she had the bat in the boot for two months is not relevant to the question of whether she had a reasonable excuse at the time she picked it up from the car ...
ii. On the element of reasonable excuse -- and I stress only on that element -- the burden of proof passes to the defendant to show on a balance of probabilities that she had a reasonable excuse. If you think that she did have a reasonable excuse, on the balance of probabilities, you will not find that she lacked that reasonable excuse. If, on the other hand, you are satisfied that she probably did not have a reasonable excuse for her possession of that bat, then you will find that she did not have a reasonable excuse and that that defence does not avail her.
iii. Now possession of the bat as a teaching tool in [Tae Kwon Do] may be a reasonable excuse for carrying the bat in the car, but at the moment she picks it out of the boot such a reasonable excuse cannot apply can it because the nature of the use changes from a teaching tool to something else does it not particularly because it is not suggested that she was giving Miss McArdle a lesson in [Tae Kwon Do]."