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You are here: BAILII >> Databases >> England and Wales High Court (Administrative Court) Decisions >> Iqbal v Director of Public Prosecutions [2004] EWHC 2567 (Admin) (22 October 2004) URL: http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWHC/Admin/2004/2567.html Cite as: [2004] EWHC 2567 (Admin) |
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QUEEN'S BENCH DIVISION
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MR JUSTICE SILBER
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MOHAMMED IQBAL | (CLAIMANT) | |
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DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC PROSECUTIONS | (DEFENDANT) |
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"(a) Whether we were correct in admitting evidence of the pre-caution conversation at the roadside, during which the appellant and his passenger each told the police officers that the laptop computer found in the car belonged to the other?
(b) Whether there was evidence on which we could find that the laptop computer had been stolen from Daimler Chrysler?
(c) Whether, in all the circumstances, there was evidence on which we could find the appellant guilty of the offence of receiving stolen goods?"
"A person whom there are grounds to suspect of an offence, must be cautioned before any questions about an offence, or further questions if answers provide the grounds for suspicion, are put to them if either the suspect's answers or silence (ie failure or refusal to answer or answer satisfactorily) may be given in evidence to a court in prosecution."
In my view the need for a caution had not been triggered when P.C. Donohoe initially questioned the appellant because, as the magistrates explain, they formed the opinion that P.C. Donohoe did not form the suspicion that the laptop computer was stolen until the appellant and his passenger had each said it belonged to the other. The magistrates found that P.C. Donohoe was trying to establish the ownership of the laptop computer at that stage and there was no requirement for the appellant to be cautioned. In my view that was a correct finding that was open to them as he had found that P.C. Donohoe was questioning the appellant at the roadside before he had formed a suspicion.
"The description of property in a count in an indictment shall be in ordinary language and such as to indicate with reasonable clearness the property referred to, and if the property is so described it shall not be necessary (except where required for the purpose of describing an offence depending on any special ownership of property or special value of property) to name the person to whom the property belongs or the value of the property."
He also relies on the decision of the Court of Appeal (Criminal Division) in R v Deakin [1972] 3 All ER 803 where on the facts of that particular case it was held that the averment of ownership was not a material averment.