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QUEEN'S BENCH DIVISION
DIVISIONAL COURT
Strand London WC2 |
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B e f o r e :
MR JUSTICE DAVID STEEL
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THE QUEEN ON THE APPLICATION OF "C" | (CLAIMANT) | |
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LEEDS YOUTH COURT | (DEFENDANT) |
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"The arrests had been part of a major police operation, and a total of fifteen defendants, both adults and youths, were before the court that day. Some were charged alone, and some like [C] were jointly charged with co-defendants."
"(1) Where a person under the age of 18 years appears or is brought before a magistrates' court on an information charging him with an indictable offence ... he shall be tried summarily unless -
(a) ... the offence is such as is mentioned in subsection (1) or (2) of section 91 of the Powers of Criminal Courts (Sentencing) Act 2000 (under which young persons convicted on indictment of certain grave crimes may be sentenced to be detained for long periods) and the court considers that if he is found guilty of the offence it ought to be possible to sentence him in pursuance of subsection (3) of that section ...
and accordingly in a case falling within paragraph (a) ... of this subsection the court shall commit the accused for trial if either it is of opinion that there is sufficient evidence to put him on trial or it has power under section 6(2) above so to commit him without consideration of the evidence."
"(1) Subsection (3) below applies where a person aged under 18 is convicted on indictment of -
(a) an offence punishable in the case of a person aged 21 or over with imprisonment for 14 years or more, not being an offence the sentence for which is fixed by law...
(3) If the court is of the opinion that none of the other methods in which the case may legally be dealt with is suitable, the court may sentence the offender to be detained for such period, not exceeding the maximum term of imprisonment with which the offence is punishable in the case of a person aged 21 or over, or as may be specified in the sentence."
"22. In my judgment, the effect of section 24 is that a magistrates' court should not decline jurisdiction unless the offence and the circumstances surrounding it and the offender are such as to make it more than a vague or theoretical possibility that a sentence of detention for a long period may be passed. Although, under section 91 and pursuant to recent authority, it is no longer necessary for a court to pass a sentence of at least three years, in my judgment section 91 is primarily applicable to cases of such gravity that the court is or may be considering a sentence of at least two years. Anything less, it seems to me, falls primarily to be dealt with as a detention and training order.
23. There is no statutory restriction on a court, using its powers under section 91, passing a sentence of less than two years. But it seems to me that it will only be in very exceptional and restrictive circumstances that it will be appropriate to do so, rather than make a detention and training order. The fact that an offender, as here, does not qualify for a detention and training order because he is not a persistent offender does not seem to me such an exceptional circumstance as to justify the passing of a period of detention of less than two years under section 91 of the Act of 2000."
"18. ...In an attempt to underline what was said by Gage J in that case [the reference is in fact to a decision of Gage J in Thetford Youth Justices which cross-referred back to his earlier decision in D], I would indicate the justices should start off with a strong presumption against sending young offenders to the Crown Court unless they are satisfied that that is clearly required, notwithstanding the fact that the forum for trial will not be so appropriate as the Youth Court.
19. The other guidance which justices should have in mind is that they must be of the view that, if they are going to send a case to the Crown Court, it is such a serious case that detention above two years is required, or it is one of those cases where they consider that the appropriate sentence is not only a custodial sentence, but a custodial sentence which is approaching the two year limit which is normally applicable to older offenders with whom they have to deal. To do otherwise would not comply with the intention of the legislation to which I have referred."
"33. The general policy of the legislature is that those who are under 18 years of age and in particular children of under 15 years of age should, wherever possible, be tried in the youth court. It is that court which is best designed to meet their specific needs. A trial in a Crown Court with the inevitably greater formality and greatly increased number of people involved (including a jury and the public) should be reserved for the most serious cases.
34. It is a further policy of the legislature that, generally speaking, first-time offenders aged 12 to 14 and all offenders under 12 should not be detained in custody and decisions as to jurisdiction should have regard to the fact that the exceptional power to detain for grave offences should not be used to water down the general principle. Those under 15 will rarely attract a period of detention and, even more rarely, those who are under 12.
35. In each case the court should ask itself whether there is a real prospect, having regard to his or her age, that this defendant whose case they are considering might require a sentence of, or in excess of, two years or, alternatively, whether, although the sentence might be less than two years, there is some unusual feature of the case which justifies declining jurisdiction, bearing in mind that the absence of a power to impose a detention and training order because the defendant is under 15 is not an unusual feature."
"(a) Is there a more than vague or theoretical possibility/a real possibility of two or more years being imposed, or might realistically two or more years be imposed, or is there a real prospect of more than two years being imposed? If so, then the case should be committed to the Crown Court for trial."
There are other considerations canvassed by Mr Waterman into which, given the facts of this case, it is unnecessary to travel.
"The Crown Prosecution Service made representations that the offences were Grave Crimes, that there was a nexus between all three defendants, and that they should be dealt with together at the Crown Court. My recollection is that the other two defendants' solicitors did not oppose the suggestion that their cases were Grave Crimes and although as [C]'s solicitor Mr Message did make some submission for his client to be dealt with separately in the Youth Court, the submission was extremely brief and he didn't rely on any authorities. He certainly didn't cite the case of R v Khalid Hussain which is referred to in the Claimant's grounds for appeal. Mr Message did not indicate what plea his client would be entering to the charges, therefore assuming his client intended to plead not guilty I took the view that not only were these Grave Crimes but in the light of what I was told about the connection between the three co-defendants, I considered they should all be dealt with by the same tribunal so as to avoid the possibility of two or more trials in different courts. Although no authorities were presented to me by Mr Message I did apply my mind to the Grave Crimes criteria and I gave my reasons, albeit brief ones, for my decision to direct that all three defendants should be dealt with at the Crown Court. At no time did Mr Message ask me to elaborate on my reasons, which were delivered ex tempore but recorded by the Legal Advisor. The note of my reasons on the case papers says 'involved in large supply of Class A drugs. Nexus between the defendants. Should be dealt with together'.
I take issue with paragraph 3 of the Grounds of Appeal, which states that I disposed of the matter in one sentence. I consider that the extent of my reasons were commensurate with the submissions which had been made by both Prosecution and Defence."
"I turn lastly to the question of the adequacy of the justices' reasons for committing N for trial to the Crown Court. The decision under section 24(1) does not require elaborate or detailed reasons. The principal elements of the alleged offence will be obvious. I see no inadequacy if the justices merely state that on the facts as alleged by the prosecution, and the uncontentious matters relied upon by the defence, in their view the offence is so serious that it ought to be possible for the Crown Court to pass sentence under section 91 of the PCCSA."
"If the court is of the opinion that none of the other methods in which the case may legally be dealt with is suitable, the court may sentence the offender to be detained for such period, not exceeding the maximum term of imprisonment with which the offence is punishable in the case of a person aged 21 or over, as may be specified in the sentence."
"What then is the appropriate sentence following a trial for a typical low-level retailer of heroin or other Class A drug, with no relevant previous convictions, selling to other addicts in order to be able to buy drugs for his own consumption and to earn enough to live very modestly? It seems to us that he may expect about six years' imprisonment."
Mr Waterman would not I think accept that the case was as low-level, to use that expression, as is being contemplated there.