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SITTING AT BIRMINGHAM
Strand, London, WC2A 2LL |
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B e f o r e :
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BIRMINGHAM CITY COUNCIL | ||
(acting through its agent Birmingham Children's Trust) | Applicant | |
M |
First Respondent |
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F | Second Respondent | |
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AA BB |
Third/Fourth Respondents |
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Miss Kristina Brown and Ms Naomi Dean (instructed by HRS Family Law Solicitors) for the First Respondent
Ms Louise MacLynn KC and Ms Yolanda Pemberton (instructed by Harringtons Legal) for the Second Respondent
Mr Timothy Bowe KC and Ms Holly Hilbourne-Gollop (instructed by McDonald Kerrigan) for the Third and Fourth Respondents
Hearing dates: 27 November 2023 – 8 December 2023
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Crown Copyright ©
This judgment was handed down in private on 12 December 2023. It consists of 177 paragraphs and has been signed and dated by the judge. The judge gives leave for it to be reported in this anonymised form. Pseudonyms have been used for all of the relevant names of people, places and companies.
Mrs Justice Lieven DBE :
The threshold allegations
a. Sexual assault of SS by the F in September/October 2020;
b. Sexual assault of TT by F on numerous occasions;
c. The fact the M did not believe these allegations and told AA&BB they were lies;
d. Inappropriate touching and sexualised behaviour by the F to NN;
e. Both parents' physical abuse of AA&BB largely involving physical chastisement;
f. Both parents exposing AA&BB to domestic abuse.
Background Facts
"Help!:
Me and my sister was about to start our homework. I had my English to do, it was ment to be due today but my teacher allowed me to have extra time on it. All of my ¬_ siblings were going to sleep it was about [9]:00 pm and I remember that my mom was ill so she was already in bed, she's always ill anyway so I try to help out as much as I can even though most of the time it goes unrecognised.
So that leaves my stepdad who was downstairs playing on the PS4 (at the moment it seem like its his favourite thing to do). I slowly made my way downstairs to say goodnight to him. My big sister followed shortly after. My sister sat on her phone whilst it was on char_ Soon enough she left, it was just me and my stepdad. Something _ didnt feel right. He started asking alot of questions about school but he didn't normally do that. I tried to say that I've got homework to do but he didn't really get the h_.
He started to stroke my leg, slowly getting closer to my private parts. At the time I didnt really understanding what was _ going on. After a bit I saw him [tou]ching himself and kinda adjusting himself. I realized what was going on hes [started] touching me sexually saying really rude things to me I couldn't move."
2021
"M – Please tell me who you believe your opinion matters to me xxxx
TT – I have literally no idea its just so much to handle xx
M – but do you think [F] is capable of something like that
TT – no
TT – [RR] said she doesn't believe it because she lies all the time
TT – But how am I ever going to probe it
M – she does lie
M – When I was assaulted I didn't want to leave the house, she's been back messing around with him, on his shoulders, wearing short skirt, laughing
M – you don't do that if you think that person is a monster
M – I think she wants [F] gone
M – Do you want [F] gone?
TT – I don't no
M – don't know?
TT – I don't want [F] gone, no xx
M – he loves you a lot you know
TT – I love him too xx
M – Life is so much easier when [SS] isn't around. I just don't know what to say, im going to get in debt and cancel holiday she doesn't care."
"M – Hi [SS] how are you? Sorry about yesterday it's a lot to take in xx
SS – I'm fine. I understand that it's a lot to take in. How are you? X
M – I'm tired x."
"EDT social worker conducts a joint home visit to M and F's home with Police (DS Shah). M and the four siblings are spoken to.
M says that it is all a lie, "nothing happened ever" and that she does not believe [SS].
[TT] says that [SS] is a persistent liar. She describes [SS] saying that she was going out with a female friend when she was actually meeting a boy called XX who TT believes is having a 'sexual thing' with [SS]. [TT] says F treated her like his daughter and has never touched her inappropriately.
[RR] and [TT] say that [SS] lies a lot as she opens a new milk bottle when one is already open and then blames the younger children.
[AA] says that M had told him that "[F] had touched [SS] on here" (placing his right hand on his penis over his clothing) and that when M had said this F had said "I am sorry, it was a mistake", 10 or 15 times.
[BB] says "sometimes [F] grabs [SS] and gets on top of her, sometimes for a long time" and "When I am asleep in bed, [SS] comes, and cries and I know she has been hurt".
2022
"Mom,
I'm sorry everything was too much and I needed to be at peace just know none of it was your fault u did ur best as a mom and I loved our bond we had u were like one of my best friends. I love you so much and im so grateful for everything uve done for me. I hope you get better or they find a cure for you. I needed to go a long time ago but I stayed as long as I can. A lot has happened to me that u never know but I couldn't tell u cos itll break you. I'm sorry u had to put up with my moody arse but I appreciate you a lot. We've been through a lot together ur so strong but im not as strong.
Thank you for the sixteen years of my life and im so sorry and please still enjoy mothers day ur stronger than you know I promise ill be looking over you.
I promise it wasn't you thank you for being there for me as much as you can even though I pushed you away a lot
our funny moments and uncontrollable laughter made me forget about my thoughts don't ever stop laughing even when u sort aha
I love you so much im just so sorry but this is the only way I can be at peace
also can u promise me one thing that u wont have major arguments in front of the kids please I don't want them to have any childhood trauma let them me kids for as long as possible cus I grew up n adapted to 'real life' way too young which wasn't your fault but I need them to be happy
tell OO the day we first kissed is the password to her note n please don't read it u gotta promise me that x."
"From 11-15 my step-dad groomed me and sa on many accounts stop in like January. My sister also got sab by him and actually did some about him went to the police n everything which made me feel like a coward for not saying anything but I seen how it broke my mom and how they just completely got rid of my sister."
"I k all this seems out of the blue and you have a million questions and I also know I had time to speak up about it but I seen how distraught you were and I just wanted to be there for you but on the other hand what if he was to do it to [RR] and [BB] after the [SS] thing he stopped for ages so I thought okay maybe I can just live my life like everythings okay but when he touch me again I felt like I couldn't breathe and I was back at every moment hes done something to me. I couldnt of gone through that again honestly it wouldve killed me. I just hope that you believe me and dont hate me and that you and the kids will be okay cus atm they're my only concerns and I love you a lot and I didn't want to hurt you I'm sorry and I love [AA] and [BB] sm too and I miss them x."
"I'm broken. It's so hard. Why not say anything after all the times? Wish I could go back to 2 days ago my biggest fear is being on my own and now I am. I really can't my head around it and want it all to go away. I'm really struggling to cope with it all and who to believe and why now? I finally get my childhood dream and it's gone again. Losing so much money and being alone. None has even spoke to me really x
TT: I'm so sorry mum. Idk if us want to see me or not but as soon as ur ready I'll be with you so ur not alone. And same I would go back to 2 days' again too I would go through it all again if it meant you';; be okay I hate you not being okay I'm sorry."
"6 May 2022
At 11.36pm [TT] sends a text message to M in response to a message from M saying how upset F is "He shouldn't have done what he did then, like ik he wouldve have been such a good stepdad if he just didnt do what he did like I wish it never happened I feel bad for him even though he hurt me so much I still just feel bad like maybe he just needs help or counselling or medication cus he needs to know what hes done isnt right. I've meant to do a video interview statement twice now but everytime I'm in there I cant do it, it's not fair tho cus I didnt ask for any of that to happen to me but it did and I need you sm but I feel like your never gonna believe me like I wish it was possible for you to just borrow my brain for a bit and see that I am telling the truth and see that it did happen, ik it's hard for u and that u feel like you have to choose I'm sorry for that I am x
10 May 2022
[TT] tells school she needs to see M and needs her to believe her before she does the interview.
11 May 2022
[TT] presents as stressed and very unsettled at college after being told M tried to have F's bail conditions changed.
At 10.31pm [TT] sends a text message to M: 'ik u don't believe me but I also know that it must be hard to believe me I get that and like I don't blame you for not I promise you everything is saying is true and I swear I wouldn't put everyone though sm pain if it wasn't I honestly wish I just died instead I'm sorry, I'm sorry ur hurting I'm sorry [BB]'s hurting I'm sorry [AA]'s hurting I love you all so much, ik I probably dealt with this in the wrong way but it was the only way that I thought would keep us all safe idk just know I'm telling the truth I am x."
"(a) At the start it was small things like smacking my bum for no reason, but he said he was just playing;
(b) Then he started to do more worse stuff, like quickly touching my vagina when no one was looking, no matter how many times you would tell him to stop he wouldn't. He used to finger me a lot, sometimes happened in his bed, sometimes mum was right there but she was never see, when she was there I couldn't say anything or tell him to stop because I was scared of him. I tried to push his hand away or move but he was too strong. Sometimes it was downstairs to but only when no one was around and if someone did come downstairs or walk in, he would pretend he was play fighting with me. When I got older I started to realise, uh, what was happening, so if he tried to do anything I would try to get him off me but he was heavy and much stronger than me. After he did anything he would say I love you or you're beautiful and I tried to get away or not come to me when he called me he would say that I didn't love him or would offer to buy me stuff like food or treats;
(c)[A]round Christmas time 2019 he would beg me every night to sleep in the bed with him. I never stayed in his bed overnight because I didn't want to but most nights he made me be in his bed for a few hours and on two of the nights he tried to rape me and I don't know … I don't know what nights, I managed to get myself off both times because he put me on top off him, all I remember is that it really hurt and it hurt to wee for a day afterward. After mum stopped working nights it was just mainly touching when no one was around. I don't remember when this was but one time he was trying to undress me and mum came in but, again, he just pretended he was play fighting with me. I don't know how my mum never realised or seen."
"I wrote that after they like accused me … like after it got brought up the first time … just so like no one would say anything about it again. Cause like I didn't want it all brought up again, cause they were try … my mum was trying to say like well maybe you just want that to happen to you or like, it's like your imagination, so I just wrote that then."
2023
Evidence
TT
SS
The Mother
The Father
Ms Monger
Ms Rushton
The Law
"34. Next, as has been said may times, including by MacDonald J in Re P (Sexual Abuse - Finding of Fact Hearing) [2019] EWFC 27: "… it is well recognised that it is important, forensically, in a case of alleged sexual abuse, to examine the first point in time at which a child gives an account or accounts of alleged sexual abuse, the precise circumstances in which the account or accounts arose and how those were treated subsequently by those to whom they were made. It is therefore necessary, as I have noted, to consider not only what each of the children has said but also, and importantly, the circumstances in which they said it."….
"36. Fourth, and crucially, I consider that the conclusions the judge drew about the ABE interview process undermine his overall assessment. The ABE process is there for a reason. It is designed as a safeguard against unsound findings based on accounts that are unreliable or misunderstood. Of course, the fact that the guidance has not been followed does not mean that findings of abuse cannot be made where the evidence as a whole justifies it. But the worse the breaches of guidance the more careful the court must be.
37. In Re JB (A Child) (Sexual Abuse Allegations) [2021] EWCA Civ 46, [2021] 1 FCR 574, Baker LJ drew together the principles from the ABE Guidance and the authorities:
"11. The importance of complying with the ABE guidance, which is directed at both criminal and family proceedings, has been reiterated by this Court in a series of cases including TW v A City Council [2011] EWCA Civ 17, Re W, Re F [2015] EWCA Civ 1300, Re E (A Child) [2016] EWCA Civ 473, Re Y and F (Children) Sexual Abuse Allegations) [2019] EWCA Civ 206 and in the judgments of MacDonald J in AS v TH and others [2016] EWHC 532 (Fam) and Re P (Sexual Abuse: Finding of Fact Hearing) [2019] EWFC 27. It is unnecessary to repeat at any length the extensive comments set out in some of those judgments. For the purposes of this appeal, the following points are of particular relevance. (Save where indicated, the paragraphs cited are from the ABE guidance.)
(1) "The ABE guidance is advisory rather than a legally enforceable code. However, significant departures from the good practice advocated in it will likely result in reduced (or in extreme cases no) weight being attached to the interview by the courts." (Re P (Sexual Abuse: Finding of Fact Hearing), supra, paragraph 856)
(2) Any initial questioning of the child prior to the interview should be intended to elicit a brief account of what is alleged to have taken place; a more detailed account should not be pursued at this stage but should be left until the formal interview takes place (paragraph 2.5).
(3) In these circumstances, any early discussions with the witness should, as far as possible, adhere to the following guidelines.
(a) Listen to the witness.
(b) Do not stop a witness who is freely recalling significant events.
(c) Where it is necessary to ask questions, they should, as far as possible in the circumstances, be open-ended or specific-closed rather than forced-choice, leading or multiple.
(d) Ask no more questions than are necessary in the circumstances to take immediate action.
(e) Make a comprehensive note of the discussion, taking care to record the timing, setting and people present as well as what was said by the witness and anybody else present (particularly the actual questions asked of the witness).
(f) Make a note of the demeanour of the witness and anything else that might be relevant to any subsequent formal interview or the wider investigation.
(g) Fully record any comments made by the witness or events that might be relevant to the legal process up to the time of the interview (paragraph 2.6, see also AS v TH, supra, paragraph 42).
(4) For all witnesses, interviews should normally consist of the following four main phases: establishing rapport; initiating and supporting a free narrative account; questioning; and closure (paragraph 3.3).
(5) The rapport phase includes explaining to the child the "ground rules" for the interview (paragraphs 3.12-14) and advising the child to give a truthful and accurate account and establishing that the child understands the difference between truth and lies (paragraphs 3.18-19). The rapport phase must be part of the recorded interview, even if there is no suggestion that the child did not know the difference between truth and lies, because "it is, or may be, important for the court to know everything that was said between an interviewing officer and a child in any case" (per McFarlane LJ in Re E, supra, paragraph 38).
(6) In the free narrative phase of the interview, the interviewer should "initiate an uninterrupted free narrative account of the incident/event(s) from the witness by means of an open-ended invitation" (paragraph 3.24).
(7) When asking questions following the free narrative phase, "interviewers need fully to appreciate that there are various types of question which vary in how directive they are. Questioning should, wherever possible, commence with open-ended questions and then proceed, if necessary, to specific-closed questions. Forced-choice questions and leading questions should only be used as a last resort" (paragraph 3.44).
(8) Drawings, pictures and other props may be used for different reasons – to assess a child's language or understanding, to keep the child calm and settled, to support the child's recall of events or to enable the child to give an account. Younger children with communication difficulties may be able to provide clearer accounts when props are used but interviewers need to be aware of the risks and pitfalls of using such props. They should be used with caution and "never combined with leading questions". Any props used should be preserved for production at court (paragraphs 3.103 to 3.112).
(9) "The fact that the phased approach may not be appropriate for interviewing some witnesses with the most challenging communication skills (e.g. those only able to respond "yes" or "no" to a question) should not mean that the most vulnerable of witnesses are denied access to justice". It should not be "regarded as a checklist to be rigidly worked through. Flexibility is the key to successful interviewing. Nevertheless, the sound legal framework it provides should not be departed from by interviewers unless they have discussed and agreed the reasons for doing so with their senior managers or an interview advisor" (paragraph 3.2).
(10) Underpinning the guidance is a recognition "that the interviewer has to keep an open mind and that the object of the exercise is not simply to get the child to repeat on camera what she has said earlier to somebody else" (per Sir Nicholas Wall P in TW v A City Council, supra, at paragraph 53)."
"Any court conducting a Finding of Fact Hearing should be alert to the danger of such a serious finding becoming 'a bolt on' to the central issue of perpetration or of falling into the trap of assuming too easily that, if a person was living in the same household as the perpetrator, such a finding is almost inevitable. As Aikens LJ observed in Re J, "nearly all parents will be imperfect in some way or another." Many households operate under considerable stress and men go to prison for serious crimes, including crimes of violence, and are allowed to return home by their long-suffering partners upon their release. That does not mean that for that reason alone, that parent has failed to protect her children in allowing her errant partner home, unless, by reason of one of the facts connected with his offending, or some other relevant behaviour on his part, those children are put at risk of suffering significant harm."
The parties' cases
Conclusions