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Money Markets International Stock Brokers Ltd. v. Fanning [2000] IEHC 15; [2000] 3 IR 215 [2001] 1 ILRM 1 (11th February, 2000)

1THE HIGH COURT
1999 No. 10527 P
BETWEEN
MONEY MARKETS INTERNATIONAL STOCK BROKERS LIMITED (IN LIQUIDATION)
PLAINTIFF
AND
OISIN FANNING, JOHN CURRAN, PAUL BOUCHER, COLM O’REILLY, TIM MURPHY, CIAN KEALY AND PETER O’BYRNE
DEFENDANTS

JUDGMENT of O’Sullivan J. delivered on the 11th day of February, 2000.

INTRODUCTION

1. The Plaintiff seeks to compel the first and fourth named Defendants to reply to interrogatories delivered by it as of right in the circumstance where it alleges fraud against all the Defendants and, secondly, to deliver further interrogatories against all the Defendants.

2. As interrogatories must relate to matters in question it is necessary, at the outset, to identify the issues arising on the pleadings.


THE PLEADINGS

3. The Plaintiff’s case is brought by the Official Liquidator pursuant to leave granted by the Court. At all material times the Plaintiff (“MMI”) carried on the business of stockbroker and the Defendants were executive directors thereof. The Plaintiff claims that the Defendants defrauded MMI out of large sums of money by transferring same out of the client bank accounts of MMI, re-lodging these sums giving credit to parties not entitled thereto and wrongly debiting a further party (Cater Allen) and recording false transactions in the books of MMI. The wrongful beneficiaries of such transactions were the directors or persons connected with them. In a further allegation it is said that a sum of £200,000 Sterling was transferred telegraphically from an MMI client bank account to a Hambros private bank account for the benefit of an unauthorised party and that the same third party, “Cater Allen” was wrongly debited with the said amount. The third major allegation is that almost £500,000 Sterling was wrongly transferred from the MMI account with Bank of Ireland, Kilburn, London for the benefit of the third Defendant.

4. It is alleged, further, that the books of MMI were falsely manipulated to disguise and cover up the foregoing transactions.

5. A large number of interrogatories have been delivered by the Plaintiff relating, in the main, to the detailed, step by step, tracing of the “paper trail” which is apparent from a perusal of the books of the company now available to the Liquidator. For example the first Defendant is asked a number of detailed questions in relation to each of the relevant cheques including whether it was drawn on the relevant account, whether it was made payable to MMI, whether the cheque stub recorded the payee as Cater Allen, whether it was signed by the seventh Defendant, whether it was lodged back into a specified account on a specified date, and whether the Cater Allen client ledger account recorded the payment to that party.

6. The foregoing is a sample only; it is fair to say, however, that the vast bulk of interrogatories relate to particularised detail of the kind indicated in the foregoing sample.

7. The defences of all seven Defendants comprise comprehensive denials. In addition the second, third and seventh Defendants say they relied upon the first Defendant’s representations that he had authority to transfer the monies and to arrange the various transactions. These Defendants say that if the others were guilty of fraud or breach of fiduciary duty or trust or statutory duty, they are not liable for the actions of the others. The fifth and sixth Defendants do not go quite so far, but they do say that insofar as they drew cheques, they did so in the belief that same was for honest and bona fide purposes and they were not aware of the manner in which these transactions were in fact treated or recorded in the books of MMI.

8. As will be seen, the pleadings establish deep and comprehensive issues between the Plaintiff and all the Defendants but also as between several of the Defendants inter se.


SUBMISSIONS

9. Mr. Gleeson B.L. on behalf of the Plaintiff submits that:-


1. The Defendants as ex directors of the Plaintiff owe a particular duty to it and should be compelled to answer interrogatories relating to the primary books of the company which were prepared and maintained under their control and pursuant to their statutory duty.

2. They may not avoid this obligation on the plea that they were not personally involved in the specific transactions in question because, as directors, they have an obligation to get such information as they can from other servants of the company who may have personally conducted the relevant transactions. He relies in this connection on the observations of Walsh J. in J. and L.S. Goodbody Limited -v- The Clyde Shipping Company Limited (Supreme Court unreported, 9th May, 1967, p.5 following) to the effect that:-

“Prima facie the secretary is the person to whom they (the interrogatories) should be delivered and in the absence of any Order to the contrary it is to be assumed that that was what was intended in the present case. It is important to bear in mind, however, that it is not the secretary who is being interrogated but the company. The secretary is not answering for himself but for the company and in doing so he must get such information as he can from the other servants of the company who have personally conducted the transaction in question and have personal knowledge of the facts sought. The secretary’s function is to give the answer of the company. When the secretary answers on the basis of information obtained from other servants of the company he is answering according to information. On behalf of the company he is bound to answer according to information and belief acquired or formed from personal knowledge or from information obtained from others who are servants or agents of the company and have acquired the information in that capacity.”

10. This view was echoed by Laffoy J. in McCole -v- The Blood Transfusion Service Board and Others (unreported: 11th June, 1996 at p.12) although she was not referred to Clyde Shipping , where she said :-


“The duty of the first named Defendant is to make reasonable enquiries of present and past employees and agents. Having done so, it can qualify its answer in such a way as to obviate any adverse comment during cross examination at the trial”.

11. The interrogatories could not be described as “fishing interrogatories”, in the circumstances that the details have been precisely pleaded, the Plaintiff knows precisely where it is going and what facts it will rely on, and seeks admissions of facts so identified (as distinct from evidence, or certainly evidence of how the Defendants intend to conduct their defences).


3. Under the rules where a Plaintiff pleads fraud it is entitled without leave of the Court to deliver interrogatories and there is nothing in the authorities (which do not explicitly deal with such a case) to suggest that the Defendants may refuse to answer in the absence of establishing prejudice: in the present case there are no affidavits in response to the grounding affidavit of the Liquidator.

4. Having regard to the test set down by the Supreme Court in Bula Limited -v- Tara Mines Limited [1995:1:ILRM:401 following; per Lynch J. at page 405] he submits that costs will be saved and injustice avoided if these interrogatories are answered in that the Plaintiff will not have to call the Defendants to prove these transactions thereby depriving itself of the opportunity to cross-examine them.

12. In addition to the foregoing, considerable discussion arose concerning the distinction between interrogatories which relate to the facts in dispute on the one hand, and on the other, interrogatories which relate to evidence of the facts in dispute where the authorities allow the former but not the latter: a difficult distinction explicitly acknowledged as such by Costello J. (as he then was) in Mercantile Credit Company of Ireland -v- Heelan [1994:2:IR:105 at p.112].

13. Mr. Sanfey B.L. submitted on behalf of the first Defendant:-

1. Whilst the rules entitle a Plaintiff alleging fraud to deliver interrogatories without leave of the Court, there is nothing in the rules to suggest that a different test applies as to whether or not they are permissible. There is no presumption in favour of interrogatories in a fraud case. Order 31 Rule 6 entitles his client in this case, as in any other, to object to answering on the grounds therein set out.

2. His clients, as all the Defendants, have sworn in their answers, that they have had no personal involvement in or knowledge of the specific transactions concerned. The dicta of Walsh and Laffoy JJ. in Clyde Shipping and McCole respectively do not apply in the present case because in those cases the companies were being interrogated and the companies were defendants. It was therefore appropriate that the secretary or a director in delivering a reply of the company would make enquiries. In the present case the Defendants are being sued as individuals and therefore have no more obligation than any other individual accused of fraud .

3. It is apparent that the Liquidator can prove the various matters in question by contact with the appropriate witness. In his affidavit grounding an application for a Mareva Injunction, references are made to contact with Cater Allen and, indeed, to the latter’s Irish Solicitors. There was in addition a financial controller and compliance officer in the Plaintiff company who is not a Defendant and who could give the evidence. There is no question, therefore, of the Liquidator
“... not having (the) knowledge (n)or the ability to prove the facts either at all or without undue difficulty” ,
to use the test established by Lynch J. in the Bula case (page 405).

4. The Liquidator has not established a necessity or special exigency which would justify compelling the Defendants to answer the interrogatories. The necessity test is apparent from the cases, for example, per Costello J. (as he then was) in the Mercantile Credit Company case (page 110) where he says:-

“ Leave to deliver interrogatories will only be given where they are necessary for ‘disposing fairly’ of the cause or matter, or for saving costs. In considering the fair disposal of an action commenced by Plenary Summons the Court must bear in mind that such actions are in principle to be heard on oral evidence (O.1., r.2) and that the use of evidence on affidavit given in reply to interrogatories is an exception which must be justified by some special exigency in the case, which, in the interest of doing justice, requires the exception to be allowed”.

5. It would be unfair to deprive the first Defendant of an opportunity to cross-examine the other Defendants which might arise if the first Defendant is required to answer these interrogatories thus relieving the Plaintiff of the necessity of calling one or other of his co-Defendants.

6. It is an abuse by the plaintiff of the procedures of the Court, in the circumstances, to seek to compel answers and thereby avoid the usual onus of proof.

7. In regard to the new interrogatories (which query whether authorisation was sought or given from or by Cater Allen and whether the relevant sums were paid to Cater Allen), these are clearly seeking evidence, as distinct from facts, and are accordingly not compellable.

8. The Plaintiff relies on the wrong test: in the Bula case, the true test per Lynch J. was not that interrogatories would be permitted where it was more convenient for the party interrogating but rather they would be permitted only where such party did not have the knowledge or the ability to prove the facts either at all or without undue difficulty. In the present case it is clear that these facts could be proven without undue difficulty by the Plaintiff or, at least, there is no evidence to the contrary.

14. Mr. Marray B.L. for the fourth Defendant adopted Mr. Sanfey’s submissions and further submitted:-


1. If the facts (or “evidence”) sought to be established by way of interrogatories go the core of the case made by the Plaintiff against the Defendant then this constitutes evidence which should not be established on affidavit. In the present case the Plaintiff is saying that the very entries in the books itself constituted the fraud or part thereof and accordingly interrogatories dealing with these transactions are either futile (since they are self-evident) or so central to the allegation of fraud that they should be disallowed.

2. The interrogatories are indiscriminate in that they or a large number of them are common to all Defendants and should be dismissed as onerous.

3. In relation to the new interrogatories, leave should be refused as these amount to the Plaintiff seeking to establish evidence of fraud on affidavit.

4. If these interrogatories are allowed, there will be little or no need for a trial on oral evidence, and this would be clearly wrong.

15. Mr. Ó hOisin B.L., for the second, third and seventh Defendants who were concerned only with the new interrogatories submitted that:-


1. These interrogatories seeking information relate to evidence which is clearly and preferably available through a third party, namely, Cater Allen. No case is made that this evidence would not be available to the Plaintiff.

2. Furthermore, these interrogatories are fishing for evidence of the Defendants' defence, and should therefore be disallowed.

16. Mr. McCullough B.L. for the fifth and sixth named Defendants (who were also concerned only with the additional interrogatories) submitted as follows:-


1. The issue of Cater Allen’s authorisation is central to the allegation of fraud, and should therefore be dealt with only by way of oval evidence.

2. The Plaintiff has failed to show a special exigency or necessity that these interrogatories must be answered. For this he relied on Woodfab Limited -v- Coillte Teroanta and Another (unreported: Shanley J.: 19th December, 1997) (at p. 13) and also Mercantile Credit Company Limited -v- Heelan (1994:2:IR:105) per Costello J. (at p. 110).

3. Interrogatories should not be directed where the evidence is available to the Plaintiff from other sources. For this he relied on Bula Ltd (In Receivership) and Others -v- Tara Mines Limited and Others [1995:1:ILRM:401 per Lynch J. at page 405].

4. These interrogatories seek to procure evidence of his clients’ conduct which is central to the allegation of fraud and therefore touches on the evidence which the Defendant would produce and is not therefore allowable on the authorities.

5. The overriding principle is that interrogatories should not be directed where it would be unfair to the party interrogated. Here a Court Order would tend to relieve the Plaintiff of the requirement of calling other Defendants, including the seventh Defendant: indeed the Liquidator has sworn that in the absence of interrogatories he may have to call such Defendant. The Order would to that extent facilitate a situation whereby the fifth and sixth Defendants could be deprived of their opportunity to cross-examine such other Defendant. That would be unfair, particularly where it is clear that the evidence is, in principle, available to the Plaintiff from other witnesses.

6. The Liquidator is not suing as Liquidator of the Plaintiff company but rather as trustee on behalf of Cater Allen who have not as yet made a claim for loss against the Plaintiff company: the Liquidator should not be exempted from the ordinary obligation to establish his case through his own witnesses.

17. Miss Hyland B.L., in reply on behalf of the Plaintiff submitted:-


1. In a fraud case which may involve a degree of moral turpitude, it is in the public interest that no restriction be placed on the Court’s capacity to ascertain the facts so as to ensure that a wrongdoer does not escape the consequences of his actions. For this proposition she relied on the observations of Costello J. (as he then was) in Murphy -v- Kirwan [1994:1:ILRM:293] as cited per Finlay C.J. (page 297): this is an additional factor which should be taken into account on the present application.

2. Nash -v- Layton [1911:2 CH:71] establishes the principle that interrogatories are permissible in relation to facts in dispute and are excluded only where they relate to evidence of collateral facts. Although the judges in that case differed as to its application, the principle was clear. The difficulty of applying the distinction between facts and evidence of facts was acknowledged by Costello J. (as he then was) in Mercantile Credit Company of Ireland Limited. In the present case the interrogatories are allowable as they relate to facts in dispute or facts which the Plaintiff asserts and which are in issue as distinct from evidence which does not form part of those facts.

3. A special exigency is established in the affidavit of the Liquidator who says that if the Defendants are not compelled to answer the outstanding interrogatories the Plaintiff “may be compelled to subpoena the motioned Defendants in order to elicit the admissions and/or information presently sought from them by virtue of the interrogatories. However, if the Plaintiff is forced to subpoena the Defendants, it will not be permitted to cross-examine them on the evidence tendered by them. This will put the Plaintiff in a disadvantageous position and may prevent the matter from being disposed of fairly .” He further claims that he would be prejudiced in that neither himself nor his servants or agents are in a position to prove any of the documents given that they came into being before he was appointed Official Liquidator. Miss Hyland also submitted that in the absence of interrogatories she may be compelled to examine or cross-examine all seven Defendants whereby costs would be increased which could be saved if the interrogatories were directed.

4. In the context of the test in Bula Ltd (per Lynch J.) which is:
“As I understand the law the basic purpose of interrogatories is to avoid injustice where only one party has knowledge and the ability conveniently to prove facts which are important to be established in aid of the opposing party’s case, such opposing party not having such knowledge nor the ability to prove the facts either at all or without undue difficulty” ,
she asserted that the evidence on behalf of the Plaintiff states that the Plaintiff “...may be compelled to subpoena the motioned Defendants...” if the interrogatories are not directed and refers to the fact that the exhibits to the affidavit indicate that Cater Allen is a company domiciled outside the jurisdiction, albeit that correspondence exhibited to the liquidator’s affidavit grounding an earlier application for a Mareva Injunction indicates that this party has instructed Solicitors within the jurisdiction.

5. She submitted, finally, that the Defendants cannot expect the Plaintiff necessarily to call any one of the Defendants so that their complaint that they could be deprived of an opportunity to cross-examine such Defendants is not firmly grounded.

18. Because I permitted Miss Hyland to refer to two new cases, I offered a further opportunity to Counsel for the Defendants to comment on these cases.

19. Mr Sanfy B.L. pointed out that the “public interest” principle in the context of fraud cases, (being an obiter dictum of Costello J (as he then was) albeit approved by Finlay C.J. in Murphy v Kirwan, ) was not referred to by him in Mercantile Credit Company Limited which had to do with this issue directly. Indeed this case shows that no special rules apply when interrogatories in a fraud case are contested. Mr Marray B.L. emphasised that if wide-ranging interrogatories are permitted there would be no need for a trial at all, whilst Mr McCullogh B.L submitted that the effect of directing interrogatories in a fraud case would be to exclude evidence by confining it.

20. In addition, I offered the Defendants' representatives an opportunity to comment on the observations of Walsh J in J & L S Goodbody Limited v the Clyde Shipping Company Limited (Supreme Court: unreported: 9th May 1967) (at p. 3) which appeared, to some extent, to qualify the requirement in the rules that interrogatories shall be given only where they are considered necessary, the relevant passage being as follows:-


“While Order 31 Rule (2) of the Rules of the Superior Courts provide that leave to deliver interrogatories shall be given only when it is considered necessary either for disposing fairly of the cause or matter or for saving costs, it is well established that one of the purposes of interrogatories is to sustain the Plaintiffs’ case as well as to destroy the Defendants’ case (see the judgment of this Court in Keating v Healy ) and that interrogatories need not be confined to facts directly in issue but may extend to any facts, the existence or non-existence of which is relevant to the existence or non-existence of the facts directly in issue. Furthermore, the interrogatories sought need not be shown to be conclusive on the question in issue but it is sufficient if the interrogatories sought should have some bearing on the question and that the interrogatory might form a step in establishing the liability. It is not necessary for the person seeking leave to deliver the interrogatory to show that it is in respect of something he does not already know. ....
I would also like to express my agreement with the view expressed by the learned High Court judge that interrogatories ought to be used more than they are. This procedure and all other pre-trial procedures which are available should be encouraged because anything which tends to narrow the issues which have to be tried by the Court and which will reduce the area of proof must result in considerable saving of time and money which cannot but be beneficial to the parties and to the administration of justice in general."

21. In response it was submitted for the Defendants that Costello J. (as he then was) and Shanley J. in Mercantile Credit Company Limited and Woodfab Limited respectively reasserted the requirement that a special exigency must be shown by the party seeking the interrogatories.


ISSUES

22. Four principal issues appear to me to emerge from these submissions as follows:-

1. Can the Defendants in this case be compelled to make enquiries for the purpose of answering interrogatories where they have deposed to lack of personal knowledge?;
2. Is there a need for the Plaintiff to establish a special exigency or necessity where fraud is alleged and, if so, has the liquidator established such an exigency?;
3. Would it be unjust, in principle, to require the Defendant to reply?; and
4. What is the correct test for determining the subject-matter of interrogatories and have the present interrogatories or any of them satisfied this test?

1. CAN THE DEFENDANTS BE COMPELLED TO MAKE ENQUIRIES?
In the Clyde Shipping Company case Walsh J (Ó Dálaigh C.J. concurring) said (page 6):-

“The secretary is not answering for himself but for the company and in doing so he must get such information as he can from the other servants of the company who have personally conducted the transaction in question and have personal knowledge of the facts sought. The secretary's function is to give the answer of the company. When the secretary answers on the basis of information obtained from other servants of the company he is answering according to information. On behalf of the company he is bound to answer according to information and belief acquired or formed from personal knowledge or from information obtained from others who are servants or agents of the company and have acquired the information in that capacity.”

23. The Defendants distinguished the present case from Clyde Shipping by saying that the Defendant in that case was a company whereas in the present case they are individuals and are not giving the answer of the company but only their own answers. They should not, therefore, be compelled to give answers which are not within their personal knowledge.

Further on in Clyde Shipping , however, Walsh J continued:-

“In Douglas v Morning Post Limited (39:Times Law Reports: 402) the Plaintiff, in reply to an interrogatory administered by the Defendants in a libel action (“are not all or some and which of the statements of fact contained in such extracts untrue?”), said that:-
“In my firm belief none of the statements of fact contained in the said extract is untrue.” The defence in the case was one of justification. It was held in the Court of Appeal in England that this answer was not sufficient. Lord Justice Bankes expressed the view that if a deponent affirmed only as to one of the three elements required without affirming as to all three (knowledge, information and belief) he could not complain that his answer was regarded with suspicion as departing from the ordinary form. “If there was no knowledge or information and only belief” he thought that “the person answering was in great peril.” Lord Justice Scrutton said that “if a party had means of knowledge he must use them to the best of his knowledge, information and belief”. In his view it was sufficient to say in reply to an interrogatory “yes” or “no” but if the person departed from this and put in one of the above elements of knowledge, information and belief, he ought to put in all. Merely to affirm that a party had belief was not sufficient.

In my view any party making answer to an interrogatory, whether he be an individual or a body corporate speaking through one of its officers, must not answer in such a way as to leave the other party in doubt as to whether or not the party interrogated has availed himself of the information properly at his disposal.”

24. I would make two observations with regard to the foregoing citation:


(a) It was the Plaintiff (an individual) in the Morning Post Limited case of whom Lord Justice Scrutton said “if a party has had the means of knowledge he must use them to the best of his knowledge information and belief” : and
(b) Walsh J makes no distinction between an individual and a body corporate (speaking through one of its officers) in this context where he condemns both if answering in such a way as to leave the other party in doubt as to whether or not such individual or body has availed himself of the information properly at his disposal.

25. So far as this authority goes, it seems to me, that if information can be said to be properly at the disposal of the Defendants then, notwithstanding that they are being interrogated as individuals rather than as officers of a company, they may not avoid giving answers to interrogatories merely on the grounds that the subject matter thereof is not within their personal knowledge.

26. But can this knowledge be said to be "properly at the disposal" of the Defendants?

27. In dealing with a submission in McCole, to the effect that it is inappropriate to seek interrogatories about matters which are within the knowledge of a third party, Laffoy J referred to a passage from Colman J. in Det Danske v KDM (1994:2:Lloyd’s Reports 534) which included the following


“The position as contemplated by Welsbach Incandescent Gas Lighting Company (1900:2:Ch.:1) is that the person other than the party interrogated whose knowledge may, for the purpose of interrogatories, be treated as the knowledge of the party interrogated must be a person for whose knowledge that party is responsible, i.e. must be a person who holds that relationship to the party interrogated which would give rise to responsibility on the part of the interrogated party for the acts and knowledge and state of mind of the third party.”

28. The Defendants are sued as erstwhile directors of the Plaintiff. In that capacity they had responsibility for ensuring that the books of the company were correctly prepared and maintained. Many of the interrogatories exhibited seek six specific answers which are, prima facie , apparent from the face of the books and other documents of the company. Furnishing answers to these would present, prima facie , no great burden. Insofar as the Defendants may be concerned as to whether the information so appearing is or is not accurate then it seems to me that at the relevant time (that is when they were directors of the Plaintiff) they were in a relationship to the individual who did have the relevant personal knowledge as to make them responsible for the acts and knowledge of such individual.

29. In my view it is artificial for the Defendants now to say that they have no personal knowledge of the information of these documents in respect of which (at the time they were brought into existence) they were, as directors, in a position of responsibility. That being the case I consider that the Defendants have available to them information “properly at (their) disposal” , to use the phrase employed by Walsh J (page 7) in Clyde Shipping and as such may not, on the sole ground of lack of personal knowledge, decline to respond.

30. In this context I note, further, that one of the conclusions of Costello J.

(as he then was) in Mercantile Credit Company of Ireland Limited (page 115) was

“Interrogatories which seek admissions as to the existence of documents and signatures to documents identified in discovery will normally be allowed, unless there are special reasons why in the interests of justice an Order should not be made.”

31. I would conclude, therefore, that insofar as the interrogatories exhibited relate to admissions sought as to the existence of documents and signatures to documents which are identified and which came into existence at a time when the Defendants were directors of the Plaintiff company answers cannot be declined by the Defendants solely on the grounds of lack of personal knowledge.


2(a). Must the Plaintiff in a fraud case establish a special exigency for compelling replies to interrogatories and if so has the liquidator established such an exigency in the present case?

32. It is clear that the rules and the principal High Court authorities in this country ( Mercantile Credit Company of Ireland Limited , Bula Limited (In Receivership), McCole, and Woodfab Limited ), establish or acknowledge that such an exigency or necessity is a necessary prerequisite in all cases where interrogatories are contested. In Clyde Shipping , however, Walsh J (Ó Dálaigh C.J. concurring) appeared, at least, largely to subordinate this requirement to the principle that one of the purposes of interrogatories is to sustain the Plaintiff’s case as well as to destroy the Defendant’s case when he said:-


“While Order 31 Rule (2) of the Rules of the Superior Courts provides that leave to deliver interrogatories shall be given only when it is considered necessary either for disposing fairly of the cause or matter or for saving costs, it is well established that one of the purposes of interrogatories is to sustain the Plaintiff’s case as well as to destroy the Defendant’s case (see the judgment of this Court in Keating v. Healy ) and that interrogatories need not be confined to facts directly in issue but may extend to any facts, the existence or non-existence of which is relevant to the existence or non-existence of the facts directly in issue.”

33. This suggests that so far as the Supreme Court is concerned, once it is established that the purpose of an interrogatory is either to sustain the Plaintiff’s case or to destroy the Defendant’s case then it may be regarded as necessary for fairly disposing of the cause or matter or for saving costs within the relevant rule. In this context I note that Shanley J. in Woodfab Limited in referring to a submission to the effect that “necessity was a stringent test,” , which relied on Hall v. Sevalco Limited (Times Law Report: 27th March: 1996), concluded, as follows ( pp. 12/13):-


As I have indicated, the various decisions to which I have been referred have gone to some length to emphasise that giving leave to deliver interrogatories must be regarded as an exception in any case to be heard on oral evidence and must be justified by the party seeking to deliver interrogatories. That the parties seeking leave to deliver interrogatories must establish that they are necessary can be seen from Order 31 Rule 2 of the Rules of the Superior Courts. However it does appear that once the party seeking to deliver interrogatories satisfies the Court that such delivery would serve a clear litigious purpose by saving costs or promoting the fair and efficient conduct of the action in question, then the Court should be prepared to allow the delivery of the interrogatories unless it is satisfied that the delivery and answering of the interrogatories would work an injustice upon the party interrogated. What I have just said, is, I believe, simply another way of restating what is said in Order 31 Rule 2 of the Rules, namely that leave shall be given to serve interrogatories where it is considered ‘necessary either for disposing fairly of the cause or matter or for saving costs’.”

Clyde Shipping was not cited to Shanley J. but, notwithstanding, he arrived at a conclusion which, as I have indicated, appears to be similar to that reached by the Supreme Court in the earlier case.

34. I would hold, therefore, that the necessity referred to in the rules can be satisfied if the party exhibiting interrogatories can establish that answers to them would save costs or promote the fair and efficient conduct of the action in question. The directing of replies must, however, at all times be subject to the overriding principle that compelling such replies would not work injustice upon the party interrogated. I would add in this context that I have read the short judgment of Ó Dálaigh C.J. in Keating v. Healy and, so far as relevant, it supports, without significant addition, the citation to which it is linked by Walsh J. in Clyde Shipping .


(b) Has the Plaintiff established a sufficient "exigency"?

35. At paragraph fifteen of his grounding affidavit the liquidator says:-


“I say that the use of interrogatories in this case will save costs and will shorten the trial of the action for the reasons set out below.”

36. The interrogatories in the main relate to documentation of which there is a significant volume and


“... failure to reply to the interrogatories will result in a significant amount of Court time being used for this ( probative) purpose and a corresponding increase in cost.”

37. The Liquidator had averred that neither he, his servants or agents are in position to prove any of the documents and in the absence of replies to interrogatories, it would be difficult for him to prove such documents “ ... by any other means apart from subpoenaing the motioned to Defendants” which would prejudice him my precluding his cross-examining them.

38. Subject to the question of injustice, I consider that the Plaintiff has discharged the requirement of showing that it is necessary that these interrogatories be answered both for disposing fairly of the cause or matter or for saving costs, given that, as I interpret the relevant authorities, this requirement includes the purpose of promoting the fair and efficient conduct of the action in question.


3. Would it be unjust, in principle, to require the Defendants to reply?

39. The Defendants say that it would be unjust because, given that the Liquidator has sworn that he may have to subpoena the Defendants to prove the documents if interrogatories are not directed, the making of a compelling Order would reduce, to that extent, the likelihood that the Plaintiff would call those other Defendants (and in particular the seventh Defendant) thereby, they say, depriving them of the chance (or reducing it) of cross-examining that Defendant. This submission arises in the context that the seventh Defendant, amongst others, has claimed that if he did any of the actions complained of he did so on the assurance of, in particular, the first Defendant that this was authorised and in order.

40. Furthermore, say the Defendants, it is clear that these documents could be proved by other means and other witnesses so that the Plaintiff would not be deprived of the capacity to prove these facts and even if this were more cumbersome, expensive and time-consuming, these considerations must give way to the overriding principle that no injustice be done to the party compelled to reply.

41. On the other side of this argument, it is submitted that the Liquidator on behalf of the Plaintiff will be similarly disadvantaged if interrogatories are not directed and, secondly, that no Defendant can have an expectation that the Plaintiff will call any other Defendant, particularly where, in the case of the seventh Defendant, full replies to interrogatories have already been delivered by him.

42. The submission that an Order would impair one Defendant’s opportunity to cross-examine another arises, in my view, from the fortuitous circumstance that the Plaintiff has joined several Defendants in a single proceeding. Evidence against one is not evidence against the other, there being no claim for conspiracy. The joinder by the Plaintiff of several co-Defendants may confer on each co-Defendant a potential advantage in terms of possible cross-examination but one which does not arise from the intrinsic relationship between the Plaintiff and each Defendant per se . No Defendant can expect to control the conduct of its case by either the Plaintiff or any co-Defendant. None of the first six Defendants, for example, could have prevented the seventh Defendant furnishing full replies to the Plaintiff’s interrogatories. The disadvantage in relation to cross-examination asserted, in this context, by the Defendants does not appear to me, accordingly, to carry quite the same weight as the corresponding disadvantage asserted by the Plaintiff.

43. In this context I note that any admissions in relation to documents which are sought in the bulk of the interrogatories, relate largely to matters of formal and technical proof. No inference, adverse to the Defendants in the context of an allegation of fraud, can arise from the merest formal averment that such-and-such a cheque was drawn on such-and-such an account, was made out to such-and-such a party on such-and-such a date and was treated in a particular way in the books of the company and so on. The nefarious purpose or intent alleged to lie behind all this multiplicity of paperwork is in no way established by, and in no way arises by inference from, the bulk of the interrogatories delivered. The allegation that all of this was done to defraud a third party or the creditors of the company is in no way established by the bulk of the interrogatories directed to the specifics of the documents themselves.

44. I disagree with the submission that these matters should not be the subject of interrogatories because they form the essence and core of the case against the Defendants. In my view they do no such thing. Wherever else it lies the gist of fraud does not reside in signing, dating or lodging cheques or transferring or handling money or making entries in ledgers, all of which and analogous activities are the subject-matter of the bulk of the interrogatories in this case.

45. I am not satisfied that directing the Defendants to reply to the bulk of the interrogatories delivered would constitute injustice.


4. What is the appropriate test and do the interrogatories or any of them satisfy it?

46. Costello J. (as he then was) acknowledged in Mercantile Credit Company of Ireland Limited , that the application of a distinction between interrogatories which relate to facts in dispute (which are admissible) and those which relate to evidence of facts in dispute (which are not) was a difficulty which was illustrated by Nash v. Layton (1911: 2: CH: 71). At issue in that case was whether the Plaintiff was a money lender who was not registered under the Money Lenders Act, 1900 where he, the Plaintiff, had brought proceedings to enforce a charge given by the Defendant to secure a loan made by him to the Defendant. Interrogatories were exhibited as to what other loans the Plaintiff had made before and apart from the loan in question and the terms of same. The trial Judge held that these were not allowable and on appeal two (Cozens-Hardy M.R. and Buckley L.J.) held that they were whereas the third (Fletcher Moulton L.J.) held they were not . The trial Judge and the minority appeal Judge took the view that these interrogatories related to evidence of facts in dispute (the "fact" was whether the Plaintiff was an unregistered money lender but this evidence relating to other transactions was merely evidence relating to such a "fact") whilst the majority in the Court of Appeal held that the interrogatories related to facts which were in dispute and were therefore allowable.

Marriott v. Chamberlain (17: QBD: 154 (1886)) was referred to by all appeal Judges in Nash v. Layton , as indeed it was by Costello J. in Mercantile Credit Company Limited . Lord Esher M.R. said in Marriott:-

“The law with regard to interrogatories is now very sweeping. It is not permissible to ask the names of persons merely as being the witnesses whom the other party is going to call, their names not forming any substantial part of the material facts; and I think we may go so far as to say that it is not permissible to ask what is mere evidence of the facts in dispute, but forms no part of the facts themselves. But with these exceptions it seems to me that pretty nearly anything that is material may now be asked. The right to interrogate is not confined to the facts directly in issue, but extends to any facts the existence or non-existence of which is relevant to the existence or non-existence of the facts directly in issue.”

47. The distinction between “ ... what is mere evidence of the facts in dispute...” on the one hand, and on the other “ ... the facts themselves...” , is a difficult one because the facts themselves become evidence once replies are furnished to interrogatories. The line between what is and is not permissible is even more difficult to lay down in light of the right to interrogate not only in relation to the facts directly in issue but in relation to any facts “ the existence or non-existence of which is relevant to the existence or non-existence of the facts directly in issue” .

48. Clearly one is not entitled to "fish". One is not entitled to ask one’s opponents the name of his witnesses (unless these are part of the material facts) nor the evidence or line of evidence which he intends to follow. Equally, however, one may interrogate to obtain information about the issues that arise in the action or to obtain admissions from the party interrogated and these admissions may relate to facts in issue (for example details relating to cheques in the present case) and in addition to facts surrounding or related to such facts (providing these further facts relate to issues raised in the pleadings). Interrogatories seeking information may not "fish" for the other party’s evidence but may be permitted if they relate to issues raised in the pleadings. Marriott v. Chamberlain was cited in England in Hooton v. Dalby (1907: KBD: 18) where Buckley L.J. said:-


The Plaintiff is entitled to interrogate the Defendant as to facts which tend to support the Plaintiff’s case, or to impeach the Defendant’s case, but not as to facts which support the Defendant’s case.”

49. This attractively neat formulation has not, in terms, been adopted in Irish law. Later in the judgment Buckley L.J. comments on Marriott v. Chamberlain as follows:-


Lord Esher in Marriott v. Chamberlain said:
‘ The right to interrogate is not confined to the facts directly in issue, but extends to any facts the existence or non-existence of which is relevant to the existence or non-existence of the facts directly in issue’.
This is relied on by the Plaintiff. It is not, I think, sufficient for his purpose. The interrogatories may, it is true, extend beyond facts directly in issue, but the Plaintiff is not entitled to ask the Defendant upon what line of facts he is going to rely as relevant to the existence or non-existence of the facts directly in issue. Shortly put, the interrogatory seems to me inadmissible, because it asks the Defendant on what line of facts he is going to rely in support of his case.”

50. It is possible that this aspect of the Irish law can be formulated in the same way as was done by Buckley L.J. in Hooton.

51. It is clear that under Irish law interrogatories may be delivered for two distinct purposes -


(a) To obtain information from the interrogated party about the issues arising in the action - in which case they must relate to issues raised in the pleadings, either directly or indirectly, but not to the evidence (I would suggest "but not otherwise to the evidence") which a party wishes to adduce to establish his case and certainly not on the line of evidence which the party interrogated intends to adduce at trial.

(b) Interrogatories may seek admissions about facts in issue (both directly and facts tending to support those facts) provided they are not fishing for the other side’s evidence.

52. Furthermore, interrogatories seeking admissions as to the existence of and signatures to documents which are identified will normally be allowed unless there are special reasons in the interests of justice why they should not.

In Mercantile Credit Company of Ireland Limited Costello J. (as he then was) at page 115 set out one of his conclusions as follows:-

Interrogatories which seek admissions about the facts surrounding documents identified in discovery Affidavits must relate to the issues raised in the pleadings and cannot be used as a means to prove the interrogating
party’s case.”

53. I must confess to a difficulty in relation to the last phrase of that conclusion. Cotton L.J. in Attorney General v. Gategaskel (1882: 20: CH.D.519 at page 528) is cited in Mercantile Credit Company of Ireland Limited (page 111) as follows:-


Discovery is not limited to giving the Plaintiff a knowledge of that which he does not already know, but includes the getting of an admission of anything which he has to prove on any issue which is raised between him and the Defendant ... The object of the pleadings is to ascertain what the issues are, the object of interrogatories is not to learn what the issues are, but to see whether the party who interrogates cannot obtain an admission from his opponent which will make the burden of proof easier than it otherwise would have been.”

54. The purpose of exhibiting interrogatories is to seek admissions which will become evidence to be relied upon by the interrogating party. They will not prove the entire of that party’s case but will lighten the burden of so doing to the extent that certain elements required to be proved will be established in the replies. I am unable to see, therefore, how admissions about facts "cannot be used as a means to prove the interrogating party's case".

55. Subject to the foregoing, I consider that the principle tests are established in Mercantile Credit Company Limited as adopted in McCole, and Woodfab. It is in this context furthermore that I understand the observations of Lynch J. in Bula Limited (page 405) when he said:-


Interrogatories to be allowable must be as to facts in issue or facts reasonably relevant to establish facts in issue. Interrogatories as to mere evidence as distinct from facts or as to opinions or matters of law such as the meaning or effect of documents or statements or conduct are not permissible.”

56. I would comment on these principles set out in the High Court authorities as follows:-

(a) The Supreme Court appears to me to place less emphasis than do these cases on the fact that interrogatories are the exception rather than a normal step in pre-trial case preparation which should be encouraged rather than the reverse;
(b) I fail to understand the proposition that admissions made to interrogatories may not be used to prove the interrogating party's case; and
(c) with regard to the admittedly difficult distinction between facts in issue (which are a permissible subject of interrogatories) and evidence of those facts (which is not), it seems to me that the formulation of Buckley L.J. in Hooton v. Dalby (to the effect that one may interrogate as to facts which tend to support one's case, or to impeach that of one's opponent, but not as to facts which support (or disclose?) one's opponent's case) provides a useful gloss on the somewhat delphic formulation of Lord Esher M.R. in Marriott. Subject to these comments, I adopt these principles and apply them here.

57. This latter peregrination through the authorities may indeed have clarified little. For myself, however, I can adopt the words of T.S. Eliot in Little Gidding where he says:-


"We shall not cease from exploration
And the end of all our exploring
Will be to arrive where we started
And know the place for the first time."
(Four Quartets: Little Gidding)
The interrogatories - do they or any of them satisfy the test?
The Primary Interrogatories

58. There are a large number of these. In the case of the first Defendant, I consider he should answer all save No. 17 (which is unclear). In the case of the fourth Defendant, I consider he should answer all.


The Supplementary Interrogatories

59. The Plaintiff furnishes the Court with a sample of new interrogatories proposed comprising three questions in relation to "check no X" . I take it that the Plaintiff seeks to exhibit these three interrogatories in relation to each of the cheques in the primary interrogatories.

60. In relation to these I am not prepared to compel any of the Defendants to reply to questions number 1 and 2. I consider that in the context of the allegation of fraud it would be unjust to the Defendants to require them to answer these two questions as they raise queries in relation to authorisation, which goes close to the heart of the case. Not only would it be unjust but it seems to me that these questions relate to facts which are capable of supporting the Defendant's case (given that wrongdoing is denied) and these questions, therefore, seek the Defendants' evidence which is not permissible. In regard to the third question which relates merely to the fact or otherwise of payment, I see no objection to it and will give the Plaintiff leave to exhibit question 3 of the sample interrogatory in relation to any, some or all of the cheques referred to in the primary interrogatories.


POSTSCRIPT

61. At the conclusion of the hearing before me Mr Sanfy B.L. told the Court that his solicitor had been informed the by Irish solicitors acting for Cater Allen that they had written to the Plaintiff's solicitors stating that their clients were not alleging any loss arising out of the impugned transactions in the present case and were not alleging fraud against the Defendants. The relevant letters (both dated the 28th January, 2000) were produced and I have read them. In summary they make the points that

(a) Cater Allen has been requesting various documents from the Liquidator without success to date.
(b) They had "already clarified" their position with regard to the £200,000 sterling to the effect that this transaction had been clarified to their client's satisfaction - and that the further transactions involving £385,445.57 and £551,462.69 sterling respectively had also been clarified to their client's satisfaction;
(c) Their clients still believe that very substantial monies are due arising out of the mismanagement of the Plaintiff company's affairs and in this context they were looking for a relevant insurance policy;
(d) Whilst their clients alleged mismanagement and gross negligence "however our client does not claim that these funds have been misapplied or fraudulently misappropriated";
(e) Their clients had never sought to become involved in the present litigation, and
(f) Mr Nolan (the individual employed by Cater Allen who dealt with the Plaintiff) is no longer in their employ and should be contacted directly by the Plaintiff if they so wished.

62. Mr Shipsey S.C. submitted for the Plaintiff that this reinforced the need for answers to the interrogatories because there was now a clear risk that the relevant Cater Allen witnesses would not be available.

63. Mr Sanfy B.L. said that the correspondence did not say, in terms, that the witness would not be available. He also insisted that since no complaint was being made by the alleged injured party, the litigation was futile. Furthermore, there were indications in that correspondence that the Liquidator knew before he swore his affidavit that Cater Allen were satisfied at least insofar as the £200,000 amount was concerned and that the Liquidator had allowed a misleading impression to be conveyed to the Court. Mr O'hOisin submitted that in my discretion I should refuse to compel interrogatories and Mr McCullough submitted that a test of fairness overrode all other tests and that it would clearly be contrary to the principle of fairness if, in these circumstances the Liquidator was not obliged to call witnesses who would be subject to cross examination. Mr Marray B.L. emphasised that the Plaintiff was acting on behalf of Cater Allen who had now effectively withdrawn the complaint as made by the Plaintiff.

64. In reply Mr Shipsey asserted that the Liquidator's affidavit was prepared before this correspondence and he denied that the Liquidator was aware that Cater Allen was satisfied as to any of the matters impugned.


CONCLUSION

65. The Liquidator has responsibilities to all the creditors of the Plaintiff and not only to Cater Allen. The latter's attitude as revealed in the foregoing correspondence may well impact on his conduct of the trial but I do not agree that the proceedings are necessarily wholly futile, nor am I prepared to infer from this correspondence that the Liquidator has misled the Court. I do agree, however, as indicated in the body of this judgment, that it would not be fair to compel the Defendants to answer the first two of the three proposed supplementary interrogatories and I do not think this position is altered by any difficulty which the Liquidator perceives in procuring Cater Allen personnel or Mr Nolan to give evidence at the trial. For these reasons I do not think I should change the conclusion which I had already reached.





DOC No. THJOS0302



1, 2, 3, (not 4); 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 46, 47, 48, 49, 50, 51, 52, 53, 54, 55, 56, 57, 58, 59, 60, 61, 62, 63, 64, 65, 66, 67, 68, 69, 70, 71, 72, 73, 74, 75, 76, 77, 78, 79, 80, 81, 82, 83, 84, 85, 86, 87, 88, 89, 90, 91, 92, 93, 94, 95, 96, 97, 98, 99, 100, 101, 102, 103, 104, 105, 106, 107, 108, 109, 110, 111, 112, 113, 114, 115, 116, 117, 118, 119, 120, 121, 122, 123, 124, 125, 126, 127, 128, 129, 130, 131, 132, 133, 134, 135, 136, 137, 138, 139, 140, 141, 142, 143, 144, 145, 146, 147, 148, 149, 150, 151, 152, 153, 154, 155, 156, 157, 158, 159, 160, 161, 162, 163, 164, 165, 166, 167, 168, 169, 170, not 171, 172, 173, 174, 175, 176, 177, 178, 179, 180, 181, 182.

66. With regard to the second named Defendant 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 46, 47, 48, 49, 50, 51, 52, 53, 54, 55, 56, 57, 58, 59, 60, 61, 62, 63, 64, 65, 66, 67, 68, 69, 70, 71, 72, 73, 74, 75, 76, 77, 78, 79, 80, 81, 82, 83, 84, 85, 86, 87, 88, 89, 90, 91, 92, 93, 94, 95, 96, 97, 98, 99, 100, 101, 102, 103, 104, 105, 106, 107, 108, 109, 110, 111, 112, 113, 114, 115, 116, 117, 188, 119, 120, 121, 122, 123, 124, 125, 126, 127, 128, 129, 130, 131, 132, 133, 134, 135, 136, 137, 138, 139, 140, 141, 142, 143, 144, 145, 146, 147, 148, 149, 150, 151, 152, 153, 154, 155, 156, 157, 158, 159, 160, 161, 162, 163, 164, 165, 166, 167, 168, 169, 170, 171, 172, 173, 174, 176, 177, 178, 179, 180, 181, 182, 183, 184, 185, 186.




67. Regarding the third named Defendant 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 46, 47, 48, 49, 50, 51, 52, 53, 54, 55, 56, 57, 58, 59, 60, 61, 62, 63, 64, 65, 66, 67, 68, 69, 70, 71, 72, 73, 74, 75, 76, 77, 78, 79, 80, 81, 82, 83, 84, 85, 86, 87, 88, 89, 90, 91, 92, 93, 94, 95, 96, 97, 98, 99, 100, 101, 102, 103, 104, 105, 106, 107, 108, 109, 110, 111, 112, 113, 114, 115, 116, 117, 118, 119, 120, 121, 122, 123, 124, 125, 126, 127, 128, 129, 130, 131, 132, 133, 134, 135, 136, 137, 138, 139, 140, 141, 142, 143, 144, 145, 146, 147, 148, 149, 150, 151, 152, 153, 154, 155, 156, 157, 158, 159, 160, 161, 162, 163, 164, 165, 166, 167, 168, 169, 170, 171, 172, 173, 174, 175, 176, 177, 178, 179, 180, 181, 182, 183, 184, 185.

68. In the case of the fourth named Defendant I consider he should answer all - 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 46, 47, 48, 49, 50, 51, 52, 53, 54, 55, 56, 57, 58, 59, 60, 61, 62, 63, 64, 65, 66, 67, 68, 69, 70, 71, 72, 73, 74, 75, 76, 77, 78, 79, 80, 81, 82, 83, 84, 85, 86, 87, 88, 89, 90, 91, 92, 93, 94, 95, 96, 97, 98, 99, 100, 101, 102, 103, 104, 105, 106, 107, 108, 109, 110, 111, 112, 113, 114, 115, 116, 117, 118, 119, 120, 121, 122, 123, 124, 125, 126, 127, 128, 129, 130, 131, 132, 133, 134, 135, 136, 137, 138, 139, 140, 141, 142, 143, 144, 145, 146, 147, 148, 149, 150, 151, 152, 153, 154, 155, 156, 157, 158, 159, 160, 161, 162, 163, 164, 165, 166, 167, 168, 169, 170, 172, 173, 174, 175, 176, 177, 178, 179, 180, 181, 182.




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