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You are here: BAILII >> Databases >> United Kingdom Employment Appeal Tribunal >> Hannigan v. Cable & Wireless Communications Plc [2000] UKEAT 211_00_1411 (14 November 2000) URL: http://www.bailii.org/uk/cases/UKEAT/2000/211_00_1411.html Cite as: [2000] UKEAT 211__1411, [2000] UKEAT 211_00_1411 |
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At the Tribunal | |
Before
HIS HONOUR JUDGE D M LEVY QC
MR B V FITZGERALD MBE
MR R SANDERSON OBE
APPELLANT | |
RESPONDENT |
Transcript of Proceedings
JUDGMENT
PRELIMINARY HEARING
For the Appellant | MS HELEN GOWER (of Counsel) Instructed by: Messrs Edwards Abrams Doherty Solicitors 125/131 Picton Road Liverpool L15 4LG |
JUDGE D M LEVY QC
"During the evidence given on behalf of the Respondents a witness was called, namely Mr M I Ledwith, who is identified as the Respondents' Human Resources Consultant. Mr Ledwith was an important witness for the Respondents and he had been present at the meeting when I was dismissed. I had prepared a number of questions for Mr Ledwith dealing with matters which I considered to be relevant. After asking some questions the Chairman said that he had heard enough and that I was to be limited to 5 more questions. I told him I had more than 20 questions left, but an adjournment was called for me to draft 5 questions which had to be checked by the Chairman before they could be asked. This procedure was followed and the effect was that my questions for Mr Ledwith were restricted unfairly in my view. I believe that I was making some headway with this important witness and as the head of the Respondents' personnel department I believed that I had to ask all questions relevant to the reason for my dismissal and the fairness of the dismissal. Once the Chairman had made the decision in limiting my questions I felt that he was against me and that the Chairman's attitude towards me as a litigant in person was something that was acting against my prospects. I was doing my best as a litigant in person and the Chairman's decision in this regard was unhelpful and in my view unfair. I felt that I should have been given more time to ask questions of Mr Ledwith and the Chairman's decision undermined my confidence especially as I was up against a barrister representing the Respondents. During the hearing the Chairman never interfered with the questions which were being asked by Counsel for the Respondents."
To this, the Chairman replied in paragraph 2 of his statement:-
"2 The appellant as a litigant in person was afforded such assistance as was appropriate. However he did not appear to be a stranger to tribunal practice.
3 With regard to the Appellant's cross-examination of Mr Ledwith, this started at 3.35 pm on the first day and continued until 4.15 pm when the hearing was adjourned to the 5th November. On that day the cross-examination re-commenced at 10.25 am. By 11.25 am I considered that the cross-examination was becoming repetitive and oppressive. Irrelevant matters were being introduced. I indicated this to the Appellant and asked how much longer the cross-examination would continue. As the Appellant could not give a satisfactory answer to this I invited him to write down for his and our benefit a list of the remaining issues which he wished to deal with and a fifteen minute adjournment was taken for this purpose. When the hearing resumed the Appellant produced a list of 6 (not 5) questions rather than issues. The cross-examination was then completed in twenty minutes."
Having looked at what the Appellant had said and what the Chairman said in answer, we are not satisfied that the cross-examination of Mr Ledwith was restricted in any improper way, or indeed, as the Appellant says in his affidavit, that he was stopped from asking relevant questions. In our judgment there is nothing to go forward to appeal on this issue either.