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You are here: BAILII >> Databases >> United Kingdom Employment Appeal Tribunal >> Al-Mukhtar v. Redbridge Healthcare Trust [2001] UKEAT 0453_01_1712 (17 December 2001) URL: http://www.bailii.org/uk/cases/UKEAT/2001/0453_01_1712.html Cite as: [2001] UKEAT 453_1_1712, [2001] UKEAT 0453_01_1712 |
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At the Tribunal | |
Before
THE HONOURABLE MR JUSTICE LINDSAY (PRESIDENT)
MR K EDMONDSON JP
MISS A MACKIE OBE
APPELLANT | |
RESPONDENT |
Transcript of Proceedings
JUDGMENT
PRELIMINARY HEARING
For the Appellant | MR AL-MUKHTAR IN PERSON and Mr MARTIN FODDER (Of Counsel) Appearing under the Employment Law Appeal Advice Scheme |
MR JUSTICE LINDSAY (PRESIDENT)
"We did not pay Mr Al-Mukhtar redundancy pay as his circumstances did not fit the statutory definition of redundancy. There was no cessation or diminution in requirements for employees to carry out work in surgery, nor was there a cessation, or intended cessation, of work within the hospital".
(iv) After discussions with the Applicant and his trade union representative, the Applicant remained working for the Respondent under a further Locum appointment from 1st November 1998. The letter from the Respondents which confirms this states "Your Locum appointment from 1st December will be until a substantive appointment has been made to a vacant post."
(v) The Applicant then applied for a position of a Consultant General Surgeon and was short-listed for interview on Friday 12 February 1999. Unfortunately he was unsuccessful again [that is a reference to his having been unsuccessful earlier] the successful Applicant being a Mr S Jacob. A;; these interviews had been with Advisory Appointments Committee, which was set up in statutory form for the appointment of Consultants. They include both medical and non-medical representatives of the Trust as well as a representative from the Royal College of Surgeons.
(vi) Effectively, Mr Jacob's appointment at the beginning of 1999 meant that the Trust had a full complement of Consultant Surgeons at that point. It was accepted by Mr Snooks as Clinical Director that a 6th post had been approved by the Trust at that point and he mentioned that to the Applicant in conversation. However, he was not able to proceed with interviewing for that post, as other resources were not available such as theatres and clinics at that point.
(vii) The Applicant was aware that he had not been successful in his application for permanent Consultant Surgeon and on 21 June Mr Snooks and the Medical Director wrote to him and gave him formal notice of the termination of his contract for 31 August.
(viii) Some time shortly after that a meeting was arranged with the Applicant and there is then correspondence between the Respondents and the Applicant's trade union representative. The Applicant's employment came to an end on 31 August 1999."
" . . the dismissal of the Applicant was for a substantial reason of a kind which justified the applicant's dismissal. This is particularly because the Applicant was in the position of Locum or a temporary post. These posts were of a limited number and, once permanent appointments had been made, it seemed unlikely that there were alternatives. For this reason, the Tribunal is satisfied that this was a substantial reason and would justify the dismissal of a person holding the position which the Applicant held."
"The Tribunal then went on to consider whether the dismissal was fair or unfair in accordance with Section 98(4)."
In paragraph 11, they mention that the Tribunal accepted that the appointment of Mr Jacob in 1999 was properly made. They said
"However, the Applicant did not challenge Mr Jacob's appointment in any way and it seems clear that Mr Jacob was properly appointed on his merits."
In their last paragraph the Tribunal said
"The Tribunal are satisfied that the Applicant had every opportunity to ask questions and suggest alternatives to his dismissal, albeit that these must have been limited. Taking all the circumstances into account the Tribunal find that, on balance, the dismissal was fair."
That, as I say, was sent to the parties on 8th February 2001.
"I was unfairly dismissed because when I was dismissed a post of Consultant in General Surgery still existed and remains unfilled to this day. I rely on the following matters: . .
5) It is alleged by the Trust that I was dismissed due to the efflux of time. This is incorrect. My last contract was to run 1 year from 1st November 1998 to 31st October 1999. I was dismissed on the 31 August 1999, 2 months short of the true termination date"
"In paragraph 5 of the Extended Reasons, the Tribunal accepts the presence of a 6th post. However, a Mr Snooks claim of not interviewing for the other post is factually untrue. The interview took place in February 1999, and it was for two fully accredited and fully funded posts. One post was filled by Mr Jacob and the 6th post was left unfilled. Though legally and professionally appointable, I was excluded prior to the interview from the appointment by Mr Snooks."
"The fact is that ever since the dismissal there are two vacant Locum and substantive General Surgeon Consultant posts"
But this is not a redundancy case but a case where a fixed term contract expired, where there was competition for a fresh contract and where the Applicant failed in that competition. That is not a redundancy case. The fact, therefore, that posts have remained vacant, or even that posts have been filled, is not a relevant consideration.