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You are here: BAILII >> Databases >> United Kingdom Employment Appeal Tribunal >> Fatti v. Look Ahead Housing & Care Ltd & Ors [2001] UKEAT 0857_01_3010 (30 October 2001) URL: http://www.bailii.org/uk/cases/UKEAT/2001/0857_01_3010.html Cite as: [2001] UKEAT 0857_01_3010, [2001] UKEAT 857_1_3010 |
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At the Tribunal | |
Before
HIS HONOUR JUDGE J R REID QC
MR P R A JACQUES CBE
MR J C SHRIGLEY
APPELLANT | |
(2) MS R KARN (3) MS E JACKSON |
RESPONDENT |
Transcript of Proceedings
JUDGMENT
PRELIMINARY HEARING EX PARTE
For the Appellant | MR M MCDONOUGH (Representative) Messrs McDonough & Associates Employment Law Associates Linburn House 342 Kilburn High Road London NW6 2QJ |
HIS HONOUR JUDGE J R REID QC
"I made an internal grievance on the 31/01/00 against Rachel and Elaine [that was the manager and deputy manager of Look Ahead Housing and Care Ltd by whom he was employed] and the report of the investigating panel is a continuation of the discrimination against me. Through out the investigation, no single witness was interviewed and Elaine Jackson was not investigated. This therefore leave me with no alternative but to bring my case to the Industrial Tribunal."
The internal grievance to which he referred was dealt with by a report issued on 17 March. It was therefore within three months that he made his complaint. The other piece of evidence relating to the reason for delay was contained in the last two paragraphs of paragraph 12 of his ET1 which were in these terms:
"Due to the Association's attitude as shown in this investigation and the conclusion of the disciplinary hearing, I have lost confidence in my employer's ability to address these issues competently or sincerely in accordance with the Policies they themselves have laid down.
It is on these grounds that I have no other alternative but to bring my case to the Industrial Tribunal. In all my efforts to pursue my complaint through the internal grievance procedures of the Association, have met with cover ups on the grounds that the Association is still institutionally racist."
"57 Mr Fatti has put forward no evidence in relation to other grievance proceedings for other white members of staff and there is nothing in the evidence to suggest that had Mr Fatti been white the grievance would have been handled differently.
58 Having taken these matters into consideration it is the unanimous decision of the Tribunal that there is no evidence from which the Tribunal can draw an inference of racial discrimination and it is the unanimous decision of the Tribunal that Mr Fatti's complains of racial discrimination fail."
That decision appears to us to be unimpeachable. The question was not whether the matters underlying the grievance complaint were acts of discrimination, but whether the grievance procedure itself, either in the way in which it was conducted or in its substance and procedure, was necessarily discriminatory.
Sir, can I just ask - do I have leave to argue the comparative points, assuming I can go with the time point?
No, you do not. The only point you can argue is time limits, so that when you go back you are left with the substantive complaints, you cannot have an additional complaint saying the grievance procedure itself was wrong.
No sir, I understand about the rejection of the grievance procedure but what points of appeal is it that……….. the Tribunal went on to find that, even if we were wrong about the time…….
You can raise whatever points you wish to in relation to that, on the basis that in effect the Tribunal was simply dealing with the matter obiter, you can make what you will of other matters. It may be that you will fail because the Appeal Tribunal will say, even it went back for re-hearing on an extension, you would still lose, but that is a matter for the Full Hearing.
That's what I'm saying sir – am I still entitled to argue that, if it went back…..
You can argue that it should go back and you can argue about what should go back, other than the grievance procedure point.
I think this should be Category B. Mr McDonough is half a day going to be enough?
I think so sir.
Then half a day.