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You are here: BAILII >> Databases >> United Kingdom Employment Appeal Tribunal >> Hambley v. Texon UK Ltd [2002] UKEAT 1352_00_1903 (19 March 2002) URL: http://www.bailii.org/uk/cases/UKEAT/2002/1352_00_1903.html Cite as: [2002] UKEAT 1352__1903, [2002] UKEAT 1352_00_1903 |
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At the Tribunal | |
Before
HIS HONOUR JUDGE PETER CLARK
MR J C SHRIGLEY
MS B SWITZER
APPELLANT | |
RESPONDENT |
Transcript of Proceedings
JUDGMENT
Revised
For the Appellant | MISS H PELHAM (of Counsel) Instructed By: Messrs Lauristons Solicitors 84 Borough Road Middlesborough TS1 2PF |
For the Respondent | MR D OUDKERK (of Counsel) EEF Broadway House Tothill Street London SW1H 9NQ |
JUDGE PETER CLARK:
The Facts
The Tribunal Decision
"By 1 October that decision was already in place. In some situations that failing (of consultation) would certainly persuade this Tribunal to declare such a dismissal to be unfair. In the circumstances of this case, however, we are just satisfied that no significant unfairness arose as a consequence of that failure. The applicant did know that his job was at risk. He did know what the medical position was and what information the respondents had. He must have known the problems that were being caused in this department. In those circumstances such a consultation meeting would have been an empty exercise for the Respondent to have pursued. If we are wrong about that we would at event say that there was going to be nothing that the applicant could have usefully said which would have made any material difference to the outcome. For those reasons we find that the applicant was dismissed by reason of issues relating to his capability and that that dismissal was fair."
The Duty to Consult
"If the employer could reasonably have concluded in the light of the circumstances known to him at the time of dismissal that consultation or warning might be utterly useless he might well act reasonably even if he did not observe the provisions of the Code (that is the ACAS code of practice)"
"It is quite a different matter if the Tribunal is able to conclude that the employer himself, at the time of dismissal, acted reasonably in taking the view that in the exceptional circumstances of the particular case, the procedural steps normally appropriate would have been futile, could not have altered the decision to dismiss and therefore could be dispensed with. In such a case the test of reasonableness under section 57(3) now section 98(4) may be satisfied."
"It is not necessary for the employer to have thought at the time of dismissal that consultation would be futile, it is enough that a reasonable employer would have reached that conclusion. As to whether a reasonable employer would or would not consult an individual employee is, it seems to us, essentially a question of fact for the industrial jury, properly directing itself."
We are satisfied that that statement of principle applies equally to ill-health dismissal cases.
The Appeal
"9. Various grounds of appeal are advanced in the Notice of Appeal in the employee's Skeleton Argument, but all of those have wisely been abandoned by Miss Pelham, who appears today, on behalf of the employee, save for the last two grounds, which go to the consultation issue alone. Putting it in very summary terms, what Miss Pelham submits is that it is only in very exceptional circumstances that the Tribunal can conclude that an absence of any consultation, at the stage to which we have referred, does not render the dismissal unfair.
10. Furthermore, she submits, having regard to what was said in the House of Lords in the very familiar case of Polkey v. A E Dayton Services Ltd [1987] IRLR 503, it was an error of law for the Tribunal to express its own view as to whether or not consultation would have made any difference. It would have been open to the Tribunal to find that the employer had reasonably concluded that consultation would not have made any difference, but in this case, on the findings, it does not appear that the employer ever considered consultation; and in any event, the approach, which might have been a permissible one for the Tribunal, was, arguably, not that which the Tribunal adopted."
(1) the Tribunal failed to consider whether or not there were exceptional circumstances in this case.
(2) the Tribunal failed to consider what the reasonable employer would have done so far as consultation was concerned
(3) the Tribunal's finding that consultation would have been an empty exercise was a perverse conclusion, given the four reasons stated for that conclusion in paragraph 14 of their reasons. She submits that consultation was vital in this case.
(4) the Tribunal fell into error by considering whether consultation would have made any difference to the outcome when considering the fairness of the dismissal. See Polkey
Conclusion