[Home] [Databases] [World Law] [Multidatabase Search] [Help] [Feedback] | ||
United Kingdom Employment Appeal Tribunal |
||
You are here: BAILII >> Databases >> United Kingdom Employment Appeal Tribunal >> Ralph Martindale & Co Ltd v. Harris [2007] UKEAT 0166_07_2012 (20 December 2007) URL: http://www.bailii.org/uk/cases/UKEAT/2007/0166_07_2012.html Cite as: [2007] UKEAT 166_7_2012, [2007] UKEAT 0166_07_2012 |
[New search] [Printable RTF version] [Help]
At the Tribunal | |
On 18 September 2007 | |
Before
HIS HONOUR JUDGE PUGSLEY
MR B BEYNON
MR T STANWORTH
APPELLANT | |
RESPONDENT |
Transcript of Proceedings
JUDGMENT
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
For the Appellant | MR D SQUIRES (of Counsel) Instructed by: EEF Legal Services Broadway House Tothill Street London SW1H 9NQ |
For the Respondent | MS S GARNER (of Counsel) Instructed by: Messrs Keelys Solicitors 28 Dam Street Lichfield Staffordshire WS13 6AA |
SUMMARY
Unfair Dismissal – Reasonableness of dismissal
Redundancy - Fairness
The criteria for selection of offer of new employment to potentially redundant employees.
HIS HONOUR JUDGE PUGSLEY
"15.2 Where two senior employees are at risk of dismissal for redundancy, the fact that they are in different pools may be of some importance: however where, as here, the practical situation is that both are ostensibly capable of carrying out the new role, and whichever is not appointed will be made redundant, such a pooling decision is of minimal importance. Therefore current industrial practice would indicate that the method of selecting which employee will get the new role would involve a reasonable employer in operating a system which was objective and avoided the possibility of a decision which might be seen as capricious or arising out of favouritism for one candidate over another on personal grounds. We can see that consultation with employees or unions as to what criteria should be adopted for selection to a new position would not be appropriate. However there was no job description for the new role. The criteria selected were dealt with in an entirely subjective way, the interview, which might have been expected to apply objective criteria connected with the role, had no influence on the outcome of the decision making, Mr Marshall relying almost entirely on his subjective view as to the abilities of candidates. We cannot accept that such an approach reflects the current industrial relations practice of a reasonable employer. In those circumstances it is clear that the reason for dismissal was not a sufficient reason within the meaning of section 98(4) of the ERA given the size and administrative resources of the respondent.
15.3 The new role was opened to the workforce by internal advertisement. We do not consider this to reflect the approach in current industrial relations practice of a reasonable employer. The following statement reflects the tribunals view as to current industrial relations practice in the absence of any particular circumstances suggesting a different course. If there was a question as to the capability of either person at risk of redundancy to undertake this role, then it should have been established that neither was suitable before opening the new role to further applicants.
15.4 It is our judgment that the process adopted was not reasonable, and that in consequence the claimant was unfairly dismissed."
The Tribunal found there was a 50 per cent chance of Mr Harris being dismissed.
"15.5 …In these circumstances we must find that the dismissal was unfair given section 98A(2) of the Employment Rights Act 1996."
"There is, in our judgment, a world of difference between the way in which an employer approaches selection for dismissal in a redundancy pool where some will be retained and others dismissed. It is to that exercise which points 2-4 in the Williams guidelines are directed. These observations have no application when considering whether the employer has taken reasonable steps to look for alternative employment. The Tribunal's approach was wholly erroneous in law."
"that there is no rule of law that selection criteria must be exclusively objective.
He went on to say
"It is clear on the authority of Akzo Coatings Plc v Thompson and Others [1996] EAT (unreported) that the touchstone in such a situation is reasonableness rather than the application of either agreed selection criteria for redundancy or the application of objective criteria."
'We take the view that it makes little difference in cases such as this whether the choice of staff for the new posts is part of the original selection for redundancy or an entirely different process. We say this because of the choice of staff for new posts must, in any event, be fair based on similar principles of selection for redundancy.'
was wholly mistaken:
"If these are new posts with a different job description from anything which the various Applicants brought to them, then it seems to us that the employer is most certainly not under a duty to carry out something very like the exercise which he has to carry out in deciding who to select for redundancy. On the contrary, if he is to be allowed to manage his business, he must select as he thinks right. If he tells the employees that they will be allowed to apply for new jobs, as was manifestly the case here, then of course he will be required to carry out the exercise in good faith. If they are to be allowed to apply their applications must be considered properly. If the criteria are different from the old jobs so be it, that was part of the original occasion of redundancy, it was as much reorganisation as redundancy, although redundancy was the result. But to say that they are the same process and that it must be based on similar principles is quite simply, in our view, wrong. It may be, we are not going to decide this, that the duty goes beyond faith, and it may be said that there is some sort of duty of care, but there it is, it is something which the employer has said he will do and he must do it. He must consider the applicants."
"15.2 Where two senior employees are at risk of dismissal for redundancy, the fact that they are in different pools may be of some importance: however where, as here, the practical situation is that both are ostensibly capable of carrying out the new role, and whichever is not appointed will be made redundant, such a pooling decision is of minimal importance. Therefore current industrial practice would indicate that the method of selecting which employee will get the new role would involve a reasonable employer in operating a system which was objective and avoided the possibility of a decision which might be seen as capricious or arising out of favouritism for one candidate over another on personal grounds. We can see that consultation with employees or unions as to what criteria should be adopted for selection to a new position would not be appropriate. However there was no job description for the new role. The criteria selected were dealt with in an entirely subjective way, the interview, which might have been expected to apply objective criteria connected with the role, had no influence on the outcome of the decision making, Mr Marshall relying almost entirely on his subjective view as to the abilities of candidates. We cannot accept that such an approach reflects the current industrial relations practice of a reasonable employer. In those circumstances it is clear that the reason for dismissal was not a sufficient reason within the meaning of section 98(4) of the ERA given the size and administrative resources of the respondent.
15.3 The new role was opened to the workforce by internal advertisement. We do not consider this to reflect the approach in current industrial relations practice of a reasonable employer. The following statement reflects the tribunals view as to current industrial relations practice in the absence of any particular circumstances suggesting a different course. If there was a question as to the capability of either person at risk of redundancy to undertake this role, then it should have been established that neither was suitable before opening the new role to further applicants.
15.4 It is our judgment that the process adopted was not reasonable, and that in consequence the claimant was unfairly dismissed."
"In those circumstances we must find the dismissal was unfair given section 98A(2) of the Employment Rights Act 1996, where the employer has to demonstrate that he would have dismissed even if he had followed a correct procedure."
"the process adopted was not reasonable, and that in consequence the claimant was unfairly dismissed."
"would the respondent have reached the same conclusion, in other words to dismiss the claimant, had it correctly followed procedures?"
and found themselves
"inevitably drawn to the conclusion the respondent would have a fifty per cent prospect of dismissing the claimant, as there were two candidates who on the evidence were both ostensibly qualified to carry out the role. We have no means to draw any distinction between them. In these circumstances, we must find the dismissal was unfair given section 98A(2) of the Employment Rights Act 1996, where the employer has to demonstrate that he would have dismissed even if he had followed a correct procedure."